>> our church has a long history of pedal steel, lap steel guitars.is sort of like reggae or the buena vista social club, those things. guys before me were not allowed to go outside the church and play. i was a younger guy that came up in the late 1990s. i said, look, i am going out. i am going to take this music out because it has a broader sound and a broader appeal and let the world know what has been going on in our church. >> did you struggle with that personally? how was the process for you, coming to that decision? you know there are so many great black artists that come out of the church. many of them have had that struggle with how to make that transition, if you make it at all. >> a lot of black artists can relate to this story. our church is very old time. old-time rules, old-time laws. a lot of it does not really mean anything with regards to, you cannot go out and play that music for anybody. so i have to keep sitting here and keep playing for you all? all of you are talking about having love and all of that. for me, it has been a great t