lapierre talking about? what is mr. lapierre describing?he's describing a post, you know, i really can't describe it. >> perhaps he's been watching too many violent videos? >> it's a mad max world, apocalyptic world that just simply doesn't exist. one where the people of new york were out of control. that wasn't the case at all. people were trying desperately to get their lives back together and to be ridiculed like this, this is really ridicule i think from mr. lapierre and a degrading of the average new yorker and it's not the american way. new yorkers are americans and respond to these storms like anyone else does. i think all of america should be outraged by mr. lapierre's comments. >> joy reid, you live in the city of new york. can i read you some facts about new york. murders fell by 86%. robberies down by 30%. grand larcenies fell by 48%. car thefts are down 24%. felony assaults are down 31%. what is mr. lapierre describing? >> well, you know what? as somebody who was born in the dystopian hell scape called brooklyn, even when i was

citizen lapierre who is -- is he this screamer of fire in the theater? wayne lapierre. watch him go to work. he just sent out a mass manifesto linking a lifeline from every spooked out crowd in the country from one to the other asking them all to arm themselves while there's still time, arm themselves. afraid of looting after a storm? get a gun. upset by illegal immigration? get a gun. don't like crime or drugs, get yourself a damn gun, man. that's the wayne lapierre message today. worried about the debt crisis? worried about the chaos coming afterwards -- you know the drill -- get a gun. arm yourself, america. it's not just a right, it's a duty. it's not just about uncle sam who is coming to get you in one of those black helicopters, it's that mob at the gate headed over the rio grande as we speak and right for your house up in idaho, right as we speak. lock and load. do it now. there's not much time. they're coming for you. you think this is crazy? well, this is wayne lapierre talking, the head of the nra, and what does that tell you? it tells you about a new division

and also wayne lapierre. this is very important.ause if you look at the profiles of all the people that committed these mass murders in newtown and aurora and across -- virginia tech, they are all hispanic drug gang leaders. and that's exactly what wayne lapierre said in an op-ed that americans need to buy guns because those latin americans are coming to america, and they're going to kill you people. this is who a lot of republicans in congress are thinking about falling off -- don't do it. don't hurt our party anymore. let wayne lapierre go wherever he wants to go. he's going to destroy the party. we're going to talk about the crazy op-ed has horrible for our party's image, horrible for the conservative movement's image, goes against everything ronald reagan stood for. we'll talk about that in a minute. first, breaking news. this is bizarre. the feel-good story of the olympic games involved in possibly murder. >> this was a total jaw-dropper this morning. oscar pistorius, for those people who don't know, is a south african runner,

this is wayne lapierre's america.nd pretty much it does make sense because wayne lapierre and the nra, they're not lobbying for the rights for responsible gun owners the way they claim they are. wayne lapierre and the nra, they are bought and they are paid for, my friends. they are pushing a product. they are selling guns. here's the real america. 92% of americans support universal background checks. including 91% of americans in a household with a gun. you see, most supporters of the second amendment are supporters of common sense reform, but wayne lapierre, he won't tell you that. background checks are bad for business. here's the real america. 52% of americans in a household with a firearm support a ban on assault weapons. and that number's growing. this is not wayne lapierre's america. but 62% of americans in a household with a gun still think the national rifle association better reflects their views on firearms. my fellow americans, my fellow gun owners, i think we kind of need to wake up on this deal, you know.

last night, the head of the nra, wayne lapierre, delivered his own response to the president's call for action on guns. >> it's not about keepinging kids safe at school. that wasn't even mentioned in the president's speech. they only care about their decades long, decades old gun control agenda. the president has taken the art of public deception and manipulation to a whole new level. >> and now to the president's pick for defense secretary, chuck hagel is on hold for at least now. republicans successfully halted his nomination until after the recess. >> it's just unfortunate that this kind of politics intruds at a time when i'm when i need a secretary of defense to make sure that the americans are getting the strategy that they deserve. >> john mccain offered this in to the pushback that the nominee is getting from within the gop ranks itself. >> there's a lot of ill will towards senator hagel because when he was a republican, he attacked president bush mercilessly which anti-his own party and people. >> we don't have a secretary of defense in place and we're not going to because of a

and people like wayne lapierre and others just found these flames. they make a lot of money doing it. it supports them politically. >> why does it work? >> i think they are preying on fears and worries and anxieties. >> is he crazy like a sfox? >> i think he's crazy like millions of the other people. i don't know if he believes this stuff. >> i think he behaves like the people who are scared. that's what i think works. by the way, the class thing is so important here. if you can convince the average guy, usually a guy in pennsylvania who is a deer hunter who once a year goes out and shoots deer. i don't do it, but fine, you do it. they go out and do it. and you say it's the elite media types t. it's the people in hollywood that make all the money. they get their kicks some other way. you've got this one little hob bee. i think it's brilliantly evil. >> it is brilliantly evil, although it's not as brilliant anymore because i don't think it's working. david is right, it does work in riling up some pockets. but i think that's what he counted on with tha

. >> wayne lapierre accused president obama of using newtown as basically political leverage. do you agree with his belief here in. >> i do get disappointed when the president marches out children and uses children in this situation. i don't want to scare -- look, i have six grandchildren. i'm not going to scare my grandchildren by talking about this topic. i don't think that this is the right thing to do. those children are not at an age where they can understand the full -- >> how is the president scaring people by having children and using children, as you're saying, that are already involved in this very tragedy that we're talking about? >> the president did a press conference. he did a meeting with children right after this incident, which really very much turned me off. i would not have wanted my grandchildren to be in that room where we were talking about guns. you know, maybe because i'm 62 years old and i have grandchildren, i feel like i want to talk to the grandchildren about issues that they can understand, about safety. and there are some safety measures that you

i'm confused. >> well, lapierre actually argued for -- >> no, it's lapierre. >> lapierre, sorry. >> itns the pierre. >> he argued for mandatory -- >> so that's great. so that's great. let's check that one off the list, right? >> no, no, because yesterday he changed his mind. take a look. >> what? i'm confuse. >> you're for a universal background check? >> well, universal -- now that's what president obama is now putting forward. and let me talk about that. it's a fraud to call it universal. it's never going to be universal. the criminals aren't going to comply with it. they could care less. you're not going to computerize -- you've already seen you're not going to computerize the mental health records. so here's what's going to happen. we ought to quit calling it a universal check. the real title ought to be the check on law-abiding people all over this country. >> i'm confused. again -- >> this man's a fool. >> there are a number of good reasons for that. >> the arguments are so ridiculo ridiculous. that's like saying we're not going to have tsa screeners. >> it's also like saying you

lapierre, do you regret putting up that ad?the point of ad was this, not -- >> you mentioned the president's kids. >> they are safe and we are thankful for it. the point -- >> they face a threat most children do not face. >> tell that to people in newtown -- >> do you really think the president's children are the same kind of target as every school child in america? that is ridiculous and you know it, sir. >> you know, unfortunately, i think there are parents all over the school that think, all over the country that think their kids are entitled to the same amount of protectiohen they go to school and they -- >> they should have secret service? >> police officers or certified armed security in those schools to keep people safe. if something happened, the police -- despite all the good intentions, police time is 15-20 minutes and it is too long and will not help those kids. certified armed security in schools, like -- >> that will not protect them in the shopping mall, the movie theatre, on the streets. >> why we need to do ever

wayne lapierre. chris: i have not seen a republican stand up and say i disagree with wayne lapierre in the media. >> there are two issues here. we will not get a sweeping gun control bill because politics are such we're not. but the question of can wayne lapierre help republicans build a big collision across issues. there i agree with mia i don't that i will happen. i think that's older america. really -- chris: you're smart but could it be short road strategy? everyone know there's a small window because of what happened in connecticut, maybe few months. if he can jam the next couple months with fear and spread that around, win the next couple months or won the battle. this is the time for gun control or never. it works. >> i'm not sure this strategy helps him anymore above what he's already got politically. chris: every gun guy of the gun sort, real gun fanatics all voted against obama. >> this is the problem. have you people saying barack obama is elected by a flike and have you people saying bara

>>chris: the head of the n.r.a., wayne lapierre. >>chris: mr. lapierre thanks for join us. you heard captain talking about the background checks and since 19991.7 million people have failed background checks and been denied guns. i know you point out criminals the not go through the background checks there are other ways, a black market will be out there to get guns but if 1.7 million people have already been denied guns, doesn't that make people safer? >>guest: i have all the respect in the world for the captain and what happened to his family should never happen to any family. we all want to stop it. let me talk about the proposal of president obama and people like mayor bloomberg are putting forward. first, your question is, i don't think you can say the 1.7 million people have been stopped from getting a gun because the government did not prosecutor any of them, they let them walk in, they were denied and they walked out. who thinks if they wanted to commit a crime they did not go on and get a gun. >>chris: it seems if 1.7 million were denied, i understand the hardened

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or rather lapierre's argument is false.t trying to take away rifles, shotguns and handguns. why not argue the actual current facts, not the hypotheticals that insight fear or is fear the point? >> i think he did talk about his objections, you know, to the background checks and i think they went through that in some detail as well. the fact of the matter is the president does wasn't to prohibit the people from buying certain types of guns. >> the president said he wants to ensure people who should not legally have them. if you have a mental problem, if you are a criminal those people don't have guns. he's not saying and he's been clear, if you are a law-abiding citizen, of course you have your constitutional second amendment right. he's talking people who legally should not have guns, let's make sure they don't get guns. >> let me make clear, you have a lot of laws that are not being enforced. mr. lapierre's point is enforce the laws before you try to do new ones. i don't know if it's a winning argument. from some of the dem

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wayne lapierre of the national rifle association. you ever wonder why everything he says seems increasingly inflammatory? it's not that he is dumb. it's not that he doesn't know what is going to upset you when you listen to a speech or a sound bite from him. the national rifle association exists to bug you. the national rifle association exists to make you think of him, to make you pay attention to him and to the nra instead of to the industry that pays the nra to be their heat shield. nobody knows the names of the ceos of the manufacturing companies in this country that make guns. nobody knows who runs the various gun companies and the accessories companies who makes those extended magazines anyway. nobody knows who those guys are. but everybody knows who wayne lapierre is. he wants you to hate him. that's his job. and i think that wayne lapierre and the nra are not even in this to win elections, which is why they stay in business despite a winning record of 1%. wayne lapierre exist to make you think of anything other than the maker

just moments ago, nra president wayne lapierre said this in response to the president's state of thess. >> it's not about keeping kids safe at school. that wasn't even mentioned in the president's speech. they only care about their decade's long, decade's old gun control agenda. ban every gun they can. tax every gun sold and register every american gun owner. the president is taking the art of public deception and manipulation to a whole new level on this one. >> public deception and manipulation? unbelievable. lapierre went onto blastz universal background check which an overwhelming number of americans support, including gun owners. >> his proposal for a so-called universal background check, at first glance, it sounds like a reasonable, good idea. but there's nothing universal about it at all. think about it. criminals woent be part of that universe. sna's common sense, they'll steal their guns or they'll get them in everything else they want on the black market. >> common sense. how about nonsense? president of the robert f. kennedy center for justice and human rights. last week,

i know wayne lapierre. he has always been extremely pleasant to me. we have a good relationship. so i am not here to demean the organization. >> not there to demean the organization. he has been a benefactor of campaign contributions from them. the nra spending in 2012, just to show everybody, $1 million in direct contributions to elected leaders, $25 million in outside spending, $6 million in federal lobbying, a total of $32 million. is harry reid one of the bigger obstacles in getting this to the floor on the senate? >> i wouldn't say he's the biggest obstacle. i think harry reid is a difficult position. he wants obviously something to move forward that helps address part of the problem and i think if you look at 2014 and you look at the midterm elections, look at key states where democrats have to defend, red states, alaska, west virginia is an open seat, arkansas, these are rural states where the democrats have a different perspective on gun rights and have a better relationship, if you will, with the nra. that being said, i think everyone has come to terms that something nee

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