wayne lapierre or mike bloomberg? it's monday, march 25th, and this is now. >> joining me today, former pennsylvania governor, and nbc news political analyst and current governor of "now," ed rendell. managing editor of the grio.com and soon-to-be lieutenant governor of "now," joy reed. >> and assistant managing editor for "time" magazine, rona. congress may be on spring break, but mayor michael bloomberg is at work. his group, mayors against ill leelg guns announced it will drop $12 million on a tv advertising campaign against 13 states. >> guns are for hunting and protecting my family. i believe in the second amendment and i'll fight to protect it. but with rights come responsibilities. that's why i support comprehensive background checks. so criminals and the dangerously mentally ill can't buy guns. that protects my rights and my family. >> yesterday in an interview with david gregory, mayor bloomberg continued the full-court press. >> we're trying to do everything we can to impress upon the senators, that this is

diane i want to go back back to wayne lapierre.'s watch this together. >> the whole thing universal checks is a dishonest premise. there is not a bill on the hill that provides a universal check. the shooters in tucson and arrow, newtown, they are not going to be checked. they are unrecognizable. diane how do you respond to that? >> well, it -- the logic doesn't make sense. if you follow that through, criminals don't respond to any law, okay. so if we are going to follow that through we wouldn't have passed any laws. we need to put obstacles in their play anyway. we can't just hand the country over to them and say since you don't want to play ball, we're just going to give you the field. >> cenk: that makes so much sense. but of course, wayne lapierre is not paid to make sense. michael moore was recently on television and personalized this saying if harry reid's grandchildren were shots, he would have a different opinion. now a family member of yours was shot. was michael moore wrong to personalize it that way? >> i'm beginning to

lapierre's opinion. it's monday, march 25th, and this is "now." >> the whole thing, universal checks, is a dishonest premise. >> wayne lapierre, meet youtube. we'll take the nra spokesperson on a trip down memory lane. >> 80% of nra members even say that they think we should have reasonable checks. >> the numbers don't lie, but are the lawmakers deluded? james carville and howard dean will discuss one nation under a gun. >>> marriage equality sees its day in court and republicans are forced to see the light. >> can you imagine the next presidential campaign, a republican candidate saying flat-out, i am for gay marriage? >> i could. >> all that hinges on the verdict, ahead. >>> the gop's best and brightest are out with their budgets. and they might just take the country to a scary, dark place. #runfromrand. >>> forget the shadow, punxsutawney phil may have the legal hammer coming down on his head. what's a little climate change when there are prognosticating groundhogs to worry about? >>> everything he se

lapierre, welcome back to the program. >> thanks, david. good to be with you. >> the legislative moment has arrived here on capitol hill. what's going to happen with gun safety legislation? >> well, you just heard mayor bloomberg, but he's going to find out this is a country of the people, by the people, and for the people. and he can't spend enough of his $27 billion to try to impose his will on the american public. they don't want him in their restaurants. they don't want him in their homes. they don't want him telling what food to eat. they sure don't want him telling what self-defense firearms to own and he can't buy america. he's so reckless in terms of his comments on this whole gun issue, he talks about guns buzzing. he's talking about machine guns. none of these guns are machine guns. >> but is he going to have an impact politically? he wants to be a counterweight to youth. he wants to go into these races in 2014 and spend along with you. are you praepg to arm politically those who agree with you, candidates and what not in 2014? >>

. >> this isn't about wayne lapierre. it's about the public wanting to be safe on their streets. ♪ you don't need a weatherman to know it's where the wind blows ♪ >> it's a busy and wintery monday on the east coast. congress is on spring break as lawmakers return to their districts where they're likely to face constituents ready to weigh in on several flashpoint issues. outside the supreme court, spectators are already lining up as the court prepares to hear two cases this week on same-sex marriage. these cases could literally transform the landscape of equal rights in this country. earlier today, president obama addressed a naturalization ceremony for new citizens challenging lawmakers to, quote, have courage when the debate resumes next month. perhaps the most volatile issue facing lawmakers right now, the debate over proposed new gun safety measures. this weekend marked 100 days since the sandy hook elementary school massacre, and gun reform advocates are clearly frustrated with the lack of action from lawmakers. organ

wayne lapierre.f you want to make the nra look back, put wayne lapierre on. >> they are always booking wayne lapierre, who says, you are not going to buy america. >> he will find out this is a country by the people, for the people and of the people and he can't spend enough of his $27,000,000,000 to try to impose his will on the american public. they don't want him in their restaurants. they don't want him in their homes. they don't want them telling them what food to eat. they don't want him to tell them what self defense they can have. he is reckless in his comments on this whole gun issue. >> wayne lapierre what an idiot. % who is he to accuse bloomberg of spending money to try to influence the gun safety issue? >> all the nra does. they walk around this city. they walk around this capital building, handing out checks and they have done it for years and years and years. and it's money that they get from the gun manufacturers, recycled through the nra and turned into campaign contributions. now, yo

what wayne lapierre is doing this, is drumming up the concentrated base.o in that speech, are they insane? what's the point of newspapers printing the name of legal gun owners? so the chinese can hack the list? so the mexicans can get the records? he's dog whistling, he's race baiting. he's doing all the things that make that group of the american sector froth at the mouth. it's very smart on his part, frankly. >> the fact that he's been given this prominent speaking role at this event, does this support many liberals' claims that the gop is beholden to the nra? >> i think that's probably very true. when i worked in the senate for almost seven years, the gop obviously was naturally allied to the nra. just like the democrats were for the most part to the teachers union, et cetera, et cetera, you're going to have natural alliances all over. but it's not as simple as that and i'll give you an example. take joe mansion from west virginia, a democrat, a red state what role is joe mansion going to play in this debate? you've got a bill, several bills to come out

john: wane lapierre called mayor bloomberg in said, which is like leonard cohen calling your songs depressingthe democrats passed a budget. the republicans think it's horrible and will like it less once they've read it. there's controversy about the today show airing the sandusky interview footage. they can blame it on ann curry. shades the birthday of the great aretha franklin and sir elton john and baseball hero lee mislewy. are years abjohnny cash recorded ring of fire. he said it was about the human heart. his wife said it was about a lower part of female fat me. this is "viewpoint." ♪ theme ♪ >> good evening i'm john fugelsang, this is "viewpoint." since the tag ban fled afghanistan in december, 2001, some horrible human rights abuses have taken place in prisons inside that country. nearly half the prisoners have said they were tortured and held in places with nicknames like the black jail and salt pit. the good news about the bad news? today, the u.s. government finally got out of the prison business in afghanistan transferring control of the prison and afghan prisoners at bagram. the c

lapierre, if you're watching. >> that's odd. >> go on every other show.ome on my show. >> they are generally not afraid. >> tell me why you said this about background checks before and now have done a complete u-turn, why you think schools should be gun-free zones and now should be full of guns. come and explain to me. be a man and do it. >> and, wayne, if you're still watching, i'll protect you, because he's really mad about this. >> i am mad about it. >> he is mad. i'm so glad that you have led the parade on this. thank god you haven't been deported. you're still here, but you are -- have been relentless about this. >> it makes me so angry. it makes me so angry. that dianne feinstein, who has seen it firsthand what these guns can do to people. >> yeah. >> she's literally picked up the pieces. >> what happened to the idea this is what we believe in and this is what we're going ahead with it. we don't have the votes and we're going ahead with it because we believe with this. the other side does that. harry reid should get 10 million e-mails in his box tom

lapierre, just dangerous. and rob portman's stunning decision to now support same-sex marriage after his son told him he is gay. join something he david boss circumstance president of citizens united and republican strategist and cnn contributor, margaret hoover a big day forth republican party in this country, in many ways, to start with, the portman sensation. another way of putting it really, here is a republican senator who had repeatedly voted against gay marriage doing a complete u-turn because his son turned out two years ago, went to him and said, dad, i'm gay. margaret, what did you make of that? >> look, i think rob portman acted in a way that was consistent with the love for his son and consistent with a movement happening across the country with republican legislators. piers, many people don't know, more than 205 republican state legislators across the country have voted, elected leaders have voted for the freedom to marry and not lost their seats because of it. 135 members signed on to amicus brie

wayne lapierre calls him nuts. >>> the irs., the internal revenue service, is behind this "star trek" movie starring tax collectors and it's getting backlash. first, we start with developing news at this hour. secretary of state john kerry made a surprise visit to baghdad earlier today where he spoke to prime minister nuri al maliki. secretary kerry is now in amman, jordan, and so is chief foreign affairs correspondents andrea mitchell, traveling with the secretary of state. she joins us by phone now. andrea, what did secretary kerry accomplish with this trip to baghdad? >> reporter: well, it was a very tough trip and a tough message, because we went to baghdad, a quick visit. surprise, under tight security and secrecy, for obvious reasons, because ten years ar the war, there still are terror attacks. last week, when dozens were killed in baghdad. he was in a secure place in the embassy and then visiting prime minister maliki and the speaker of the parliament in iraq in their residences, but his message to mallski that the mali

wayne lapierre seems the angry side of gun rights and threatening.amazing to me these are the two figures that have emerged in this back and forth. but -- >> what do you have, deep pockets on both sides. you have mayor bloomberg -- >> he who has the money. >> of course. mayor bloomberg, a billionaire and can spend this money. takes a $1 salary from new york, not why he is mayor of new york, for the money. >> right. >> and wayne lapierre has been involved in this fight for a while. and now he has an adversary with deep pockets and needs to push back. >> right. in a way, it's kind of raising wayne lapierre's profile, if anything. and the nra's profile. so we know from the senate bill last week they have jettisoned the assault weapons ban and bans on high-capacity magazines, which really puts all the eggs -- making my easter reference, all the eggs in the background checks basket. let me play something that tom coburn, republican senator from oklahoma, said over oh the weekend on c-span, talking about where they are in background checks. >> they're goin

lapierre? >> i think that mr. public handling of the aftermath of newtown has been amply ann analyzed and discussed and has not been particularly helpful for his cause or the more important cause, which is reducing gun violence in america and i think that's an assessment that is widely held. what we need are partners in a cause that should not divide democrats from republicans, because the victims of gun violence are not democrats or republicans, they're americans and sometimes they are six and 7-year-old americans. the president believes we need to take steps, common-sense steps that reduce gun violence in america. i'm sure you didn't hear from wayne lapierre is that not a single proposal the president made with the vice president, whether it's an executive action or a legislative measure, would take a single firearm away from a single law-abiding american. because the president believes in our second amendment rights. but he also believes we have to take steps to reduce gun violence. steps like closing loopholes

lapierre, nobody is taking your guns away. comparing these gun reforms to secret service protection, that's insane. but there was more. >> what's the point of registering lawful gun owners anyway, so a list can be hacked by foreign entities like the chinese who recently hacked pentagon computers? so a list can be handed over to the mexican government? in the end, there are only two reasons for government to create that federal registry of gun owners, to tax them or to take them. >> now he thinks mexico and china are coming to take away his guns. he knows the fight is coming and we won't be deterred. measures are headed to the senate floor and the american public wants change on assault weapons bans, on universal background checks but lapierre just doesn't care. >> i'm still standing unapologetic and our individual freedom. >> you may still be standing but look around you, mr. lapierre, nobody's standing with you. nice try. but sit down. we got you. vo: always one step ahead with an intuitive motion activated lid and seat, bold

lapierre chose to blame the messenger andmayor, himself. here he is, himself.et's watch. >> i don't think there's every been an issue where the public has spoken so clearly where congress hasn't eventually understood and done the right thing. if 39 90% of the public wants something and their representatives vote against that, common sense says they're going to have a price to pay for that. >> he can't spend enough of his $27 billion to try to impose his will on the american public. they don't want him in their restaurants. they don't want him in their homes. they don't want him telling them what food to eat. they sure don't want him telling tell what defense firearms to own. and he can't buy america. >> chief, back in the '60s when we had some gun control, safe streets act, it was aimed at criminals, people who were professional professional criminals who were heavily armed. a chance to fight crime by using gun control. the right has sort of kidnapped that argument in a way. i want your reaction to that. you need a gun to protect yourself because the cops won't

that is kind of thing i think wayne lapierre was pushing on sunday on "meet the press." pushing the idea it's about mike bloomberg, not about your own safety from guns. >> well, a couple of things. that's all we can ask for is pryor listens to arkansans. they think every gun buyer should get a background check no matter who they buy the gun from or where they buy it. this get background checks because they buy them at licensed dealers. if you buy the gun online or buy the gun at a gun show, there's no background check. that's where the criminals and seriously mentally ill go to get their guns. all we want is to close that loophole. we think it's going to happen and think it will happen with senator pryor's support. >> what do you think of lapierre yesterday? he is trying to make it one of these country mice against the city mice. he's trying to basically say if you want to sand up against your community against the big shots from gotham, you can vote for more guns. you know what's going on here. >> if wayne lapierre is the country mouse, he may be the only making money t

we've had wayne lapierre.e had mitt romney politely -- cpac for failing to invite the two most popular republican governors. if one were looking for the singular message from the republican party, would it be g guns, governors and gung-ho overseas? >> that is something that is alluring and appealing. yeah, the reality is that the right wing right now and the conservatives are really in disarray. they're trying to figure out what the soul of the party is about. what the anatomy of the movement will look like. so they're out here casting as wide a net as possible. they're missing, however, an opportunity to outreach, as anna marie said, as miss cox said, to minorities and the hall is empty. they can take advantage of inherent conservatiatisatiscons refuse to make the political bridge to the communities they could exploit in good way. the problem is they have no interest in doing so, but they have no knowledge intimately of these communities. which means also that they don't have a sense of the broad spectrum of

wayne lapierre spoke the truth. he does have the facts straight.n the syracuse report ranks dead last. ninetieth, 90th in the country . the mayor talking about gun violence. is the murder capital of america. prosecuting federal gun crimes. the city with the nation's toughest gun laws is not enforcing laws on the books. the second worst gun law enforcer is los angeles. los angeles comes in 809th. the third worst, new york city. why is the mayor sitting in washington d.c. talking nonsense with the president of the united states. why shouldn't you be talking with eric holder about what they're doing. eighty-eight. these of the same people playing politics and exploiting tragedy, folks. the city with the mayor who is now spending millions of his own money trying to restrict the second amendment of every citizen in this country watches his city as it fails in prosecuting federal gun crimes. you know who else is in prosecuting felons and fugitives? the obama administration. this is the administration of the president is sincere with a tear as i. after al

lapierre can be extraordinarily damaging.i would hope the sort of distance that has been created between the administration and the nra domestically is replicated internationally once the treaty has passed by the united nations general assembly, hopefully, lastly, and the and treats the nra has been peddling for years now about this treaty are finally put to rest. >> andrew feinstein, thank you for being with us, author of, "the shadow world: inside the global arms trade." he is working on a film version of the book. this is "democracy now!," democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. ofbecome to the last date women's history month, we will be joined by a woman who certainly made history in the last century. stay with us. ♪ [music break] >> this is "democracy now!," democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman with juan gonzalez. >> earlier this year, the nation marked the 100th anniversary of the birth of rosa parks who refuse to give up her seat and a city bus in alabama to a white man in de

wayne lapierre. he is talking about background checks. these arguments make no sense to me.n the "stephanie miller show." [♪ theme music ♪] >> stephanie: all right. welcome to hour number 3. current tv land. supreme court, we're going to have people checking in with us tomorrow on what happens today. today is prop 8 and tomorrow is doma. and should it go all the way, jacki schechner will be caught up in a magical frenzy and we'll be married on wednesday. >> we'll do anything for ratings. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: be like brittany spears -- and then the next week we'll be like we're kidding, right? in the meantime here she is in captain america's underpants my future bride, jacki schechner. >> mark kelly bought a military style rifle in tucson to prove a point, and the gun dealer said he is now resending the sale. he put a photo on facebook showing how easy it is to get a firearm. the background check took just minutes, but he had to wait because the store got it from a gun owner. he store owner says he didn't like the reason he was buying the gun to make a political point.

keeping it real with wayne lapierre.ne thing i've noticed is the president is living like a sultan and michelle obama runs away from a reporter and starts shouting benghazi, benghazi. but it goes back to this upity negro and -- >> or living off of the -- >> living off of public assistance. this is sort of a high-level welfare queen sort of situation. any time you give black people a little bit, they are going to be lazy, which we've heard, not real americans, hardworking, and living it up on our dime. hannity keeps talking about how they keep going to different places. george bush took a month off but hannity said but he kept going to his house. >> they always accuse the obama family of being entitled. listen to this. >> and this is a lifestyle that is one of excess. now we find out that there are five chefs on air force one. >> there she is in her one shoulder coturre clumping around the beach side in her designer sh shoes. >> you did see the dress she was wearing when she toured the oil spill? >> we don't like paying m

. >> who would you rather fight, wayne lapierre? >> the whole thing, universal checks, is a dishonest premise. >> or mike bloomberg. >> we have a lot of work ahead of us. >> biggest voices in the gun debates square off. >> criminals aren't going to be checked. >> this isn't about wayne lapierre. >> he can't buy america. >> this is about a public wanting to be safe on their streets. >> background checks has pretty broad support. >> 90% of the american people support stronger background checks. >> the nra wants to do things that makes people safe. >> interesting remarks. >> mayor bloomberg has the american people i believe on his side. >> this country shifted away from conservative ideals. >> we have to win in 2014 and we have to win in 2016. >> i remain haunted by the experience of the 2012 campaign. >> why i think republicans should be focused like a laser beam on nothing but getting elected. >> we have a long way to go, but we're making progress. >> oh, my goodness! yes! >>> when supporters of marriage equality go in front of the s

wayne lapierre said to nbc's david gregory about mayor bloomberg this.en. >> people all over, millions of people, sending us five, ten, 15, $20 checks, saying stand up to this guy that says we can only have three bullets, which is what he said. stand up to this guy that says ridiculous things like the nra wants firearms with nukes on them. it is insane. >> lapierre also says bloomberg wants to buy america, heard what he said, he called him insane. when you look at this, could bloomberg's massive wealth interfere with his message with all of the other criticisms levied by the nra? >> it is not just of course mayor bloomberg, you have the brady campaign, a gun organization fighting for stronger gun safety measures as well, along with the american people. and there are just as many i believe just individuals and families that are willing to send in the five and ten dollar contributions adding to the effort. i would encourage mayor bloomberg and the brady campaign to reach out to average contributors that would be able to match what the nra is raising in ter

we have seen donald trump and, mitch mcconnell, kelly ayotte, and paul ryan and wayne lapierre, and weave everybody in there, right? is that a time for the conservatives to look forward to a launch pad going toward 2016 or a time to bash the president, and first is kelly ayotte spoke and mentioned benghazi. >> well, it is interesting, because it needs to be a time for the republicans to look ahead, and the lineup that you just showed, reflects some of the problem. there is a certain schizophrenia in the party, and there are so many stakeholders here and so many ideologies competing and you see it in the discussions around immigration and the discussions around gay marriage and foreign policy and the opinions are sort of all over the map, and really, this time i think that it needs to be used for the republicans to solidify, with who are are we? what kind of party are wie goin to be and position themselves well. >> one of the speakers is mitch mcconnell this morning and this is what he said. >> i want you to take a look at the stack of paper behind e me. it is the most powerful argument

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john welcome back into "the war room." >> thank you. >> michael: isn't it ironic that wayne lapierres bloomberg can't buy the american public? >> it sure is. the ben factors and the uniquely dominating gun industry has intimidated the democratic party and influenced the republican party. i go to a gun store. federally licensed gun dealers have to run a background check. but members of congress have agreed that criminals and terrorists who can't pass a background check should be able to legally buy guns in 33 states from private gun dealers. so they are supporting the rights of criminals, the mentally ill and even terrorists. it's time we stand up to the uniquely regulated gun industry and say no, you are not going to buy our government. >> michael: listening to you say that it's so damn frustrating, john, the nra it appears and i think you would agree -- does int seem like they are still winning at this? and if they are, have they at least been weakened by newtown at all? >> i think so with regard to the general population. but we have lost our d.c.sy to special interests. and the nr

what kind of reception will wayne lapierre get at cpac?reaching to the choir, so i suspect he'll get a standing ovation, a sustained round of applause. he'll probably say what he's said, it's an assault on second amendment rights. i believe in the right very strongly to bear arms. hour, there should be a back ground check. hour, i don't see the need for semiautomatic weapons in the household. that makes no sense to me. so what i think is wayne lapierre will spread more gasoline on the fire, if you will, in preaching to the choir. >> is that what you think happens? >> i think so. wayne lapierre said a decade ago he was for background checks. now there's a poll out that shows even in states like montana, the majority, about 78% of gun owners are for background checks but wayne lapierre -- >> why is that? why does there seem to be such a disconnection between nra and its membership? >> because it's the lobbyist group in washington and the spokespeople. they're stopping commonsense gun safety laws going in effect. they're my parents and your p

it's insane. >> that is wayne lapierre head of the nra.k mayor mike bloomberg. here with us now is democratic senator from pennsylvania and member of the foreign relations committee, senator bob casey and former governor of pennsylvania, msnbc political analyst and co-chair of fix the debt campaign, governor ed rendell. you guys, pennsylvania. huge state. huge sprawling state. filled with sports people, hunters, gun owners, the vast majority of them responsible. where are you on what wayne lapierre said? >> well, we have a million hunters in the state. as ed knows, it's a big part of our culture and pennsylvania. after newtown i spent a lot of time thinking what happened there and i made a pretty substantial shift in my position. i think we should have not only a vote but pass some of the measures we have been talking about, the assault weapons ban, the magazine clip legislation, if we can get to that, and the background checks. there could be others but those are the three main ones. even if it's only done by way of amendment when we get

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i want to start with wayne lapierre, if i may saying the nra supports a bill to get the records of thosedjudicated mentally incompetent and dangerous into the background check system for gun dealers and better enforcement of federal laws and stronger penalties for illegal third-party purchases and gun trafficking. that is, i would think, a fairly impressive list of things, the nra supports. paul, can you -- and the brady campaign, then join hands with the nra on those issues? >> those are all basically things that need to be done, things we have pushed for, for years. i was happy after the virginia tech shootings that work -- work with the nra members to make sure we passed the bill to get more records into the background check system but with all of those things, unless we require background checks on all sales we are not going far enough. yes, they are talking about things that make sense and yes, they've talked about things in the past and wayne lapierre supported universal background checks in 1999 and changed his mind apparently now but we need to make sure we do a back ground check

lapierre. that's what this is all about. and i don't get it. yes, senator patrick?just very quickly. in all serious 'n', if you're going to be upset with anyone about seeing the increase in gun sales, you should be upset with president obama, and joe biden. because the president and vice president have done more to sell guns in this country than the nra. >> let me respond to that. because i've heard this argument. the fact that the president and vice president, the fact that they're trying to bring in any form of gun control to make america safer, and the fact that the response driven by the nra's cynical marketing in my view, has been a massive surge in sales. not just of any old weapons, but of the specific ar-15 type assault rifle used by adam lanza at sandy hook. i think shams a civilized society. i really do. i find it an astonishing reaction to the worst atrocity of school children in america. you as a state senator, that you honestly believe the answer after an atrocity like that, is to allow the nra to hijack sporting events, full of young impressionable chi

. >>> next, my all-star panel and the gun control battle turns personal between the nra's wayne lapierre and new york's mayor bloomberg. >>> we got a 911 call that there was a shooting at sandy hook elementary school. >> we need to remember the 26 victims who lost their lives. >> she just wanted to teach little kids. that was her goal. and she died doing it. >> that was the last i ever saw jessie alive. >> a new ad calling for gun control featuring families who lost their children at newtown. we did something special the last few days. we conducted an informal count of u.s. senators asking them whether or not they supported dianne feinstein's proposed ban on assault weapons which was never allowed to get to the senate floor. the number's not official. in some cases the answer wasn't quite as simple as yes or no. the current total, 30 senators said they would support the ban. 44 said they would oppose it. 16 had no response. 10 took no position. the 16 that haven't responded we should name them. bennett from colorado, cantwell from washington. chambliss from georgia. corker from tennessee

. >> maria, i want to talk about wayne lapierre quickly here. he had a prime speaking spot.that no republicans will ever vote for any means of gun control? your thoughts on that. >> well, i think it should be more of a message to voters in this country that a political party and i know that amy keeps talking about how cpac is not focused on republican or political politics. that's right. but you can't get away from the fact that it is -- it is part in parcel of the gop of the republican party. and so when you have people like wayne lapierre speaking at this, it's clearly a message from the nra warning republicans they should not focus on any type of gun violence priorities or legislation. and i think what it tells the american people is once again that these are leaders, call them republican leaders, call them conservative leaders, whatever you want. but these are not leaders that are in tune with where the majority of americans are. the majority of americans want sensible gun violence legislation so that -- so that all of the gun violence that we have seen in the past sever

and wayne lapierre says that he's trying to buy america, what do you say? influence and the problem i have with these commercials, to charles' point he's not using facts to back up what he is pushing on the television commercials. he's injecting a lot of emotion. he's not using why are these people actually killing in the first place, he's blaming it on the guns themselves. so, are there some things that mayor bloomberg that have been done in the city that are good. yes. i don't disagree, i think they're helpful as a consumer, however, he's got the money, he's going to influence politics. charles: exact, i agree. i think he could do more-- what he does with his mayor is fine. as mayor some of the things he pushed through, you know, and i thought was ridiculous. if he wants to spend his fortune to change the way that america thinks, that's up to him. stuart: a little later on the program, i'm going to side with mayor bloomberg on his nanny-ism. >> shocking. stuart: we've got another live report from a country that's said to be on the verge of an economic dep

enter wayne lapierre, ceo of the nra. >> if you're not free to protect yourself when government puts thumb on the freedom. they can call me crazy or anything else they want. and they say we're crazy? that's crazy. crazy. crazy. it's as if sanity, itself, has been sequestered in washington. >> crazy. that's the word he likes. that's what we're hearing. see what i mean? >>> finally this week in conspiracy theories, is ben affleck a secret undercover government operative as in the present day version of character he played in movie "argo" that came out this year? the iranian government is not pleased with affleck's oscar winning movie which tells of the escape of six americans during the iranian hostage crisis. this week an iranian news agency gave an american conspiracy theorist a chance to discredit the movie. quote, if the makers of "argo" are deposed under oath, they may be forced to reveal their film like the fictitious film within the film is a covert operation disguised as a movie. i have a theory, too. "argo" was a successful effort to make a popular movie. and that's reality. f