lara brown. >> guest: obviously the election was contentious and uncertain and there was a lot of legal decisions and recounts. i wrote a book on the 1876 election, and 2000 has nothing on that. you know, there is this impression in our history that our elections and that our politics have been sort of more pure in times past, and really that's a false impression. when you go back in time, what you see is that the parties not only counted the ballots, but they printed them and knew where everyone lived and maneuvered around voter # -- voters. our politics are cleaner than they ever have been. another thing around hurricane katrina treen ya. one of the things fascinating to me as someone who tries to understand both political parties, from leaders from both parties is that you see ideology impending on decision making. what you see in the hurricane katrina situation is you see the state and local government should lead, and there's a problem because one democratic ideology, the federal government should lead. when you have a democratic governor and a republican president, i think what yo