[laughter] typical ring lardner. we couldn't let it stand. wine at the last supper. you're not getting rid of it. you live with the demons you have, to some extempt, but don't introduce new ones in it seems to me. we know the harm alcohol has caused. every family has this problem. a lot of families have the drug problem. almost every family i know if we extend far enough has the alcohol problem -- >> host: and usually the distinction between the alcohol and the pot and the other problems is very blurred because -- >> guest: yes. >> host: -- your judgment is impaired on one you imbibe in the other. >> guest: a fair minded analysis jonah, a long and complicated series of arguments if you looked at marijuana, tobacco, cigarettes and alcohol you would conclude all of this makes me think there's a strong or case against tobacco and alcohol than there is for marijuana. we're not going to prohibition. but, you know, inroads have mattered. mothers against drunk driving have done i think, very good work. and, look, all this stuff about you know, seriousness towards smokers ha

states during renaissance europe that closed their gates as the plague came by and fattened their lardners when it went away and reopened them when it was safe. we're sitting on huge stash of cash. not willing to risk it because we're taught to husband capital. and the plentiful resource we've always assumed are people. but there's always plenty of people to go around. and i will make the argument that i think that's flipped. when i talked to my board of directors about the strategy we need to pursue, our single biggest risk is our human talent in the organization to make that happen. we have plentiful cash, we borrowed $2.5 trillion to do our latest acquisition at 1.9% after tax. you almost can't screw up an acquisition that badly to not make a return on that kind of cash. so i've got a few -- these are for those of you that were educated in business schools, these are the numbers we pay attention to. and we're told these are the numbers we get measured by and this is how we get rewarded is that we maximize return on equity, return on invest in capital, that we have to hit our quarterly e