. >> in largo maryland. >> i went to dematha catholic high school.ity. >> then to the ravens for a short period of time. >> yeah, it was short but fun i wouldn't take nothing back from it it helped me get into my art >> that is one of the things we have a picture of you there, number 27 what position did you play >> corner back. >> very good. so, but as a kid you knew i mean you were attracted to art even as a kid >> yes, i was around my great grand father, lindy jordan he was an artist a jeweler on weekends i would go over and we would sit and draw i didn't actually like it but i did it because he intimidated me a little bit we had fun with that from there i knew later on i had a chance at it but didn't take it as serious i focus on football. >> right. >> football was the focus. >> when things changed with football, nfl career ended you did playing in other leagues as well. >> yeah. >> that is the period of time you started to grow as an artist. >> when i went to maryland university i graduated in four years but within that four years, man, we went