let's talk about this with to be our larkham one of john's minister your rival she is a senior economist at the guy institute for african affairs in hamburg to be here how dangerous is this what we've just heard for african economies which countries are going to be hit 1st well 1st of all of course any major trade conflict that slows down global economic growth will also affect africa but to what extent it does and whether we really need to expect a crisis of course depends on the negotiations themselves but if the trade conflict intensifies the implications for africa could be severe. however the effects on africa will be mostly in direct and depend very much on the extent to which african economies are exposed to all trades and to complex global value chains so to some extent the fact that many african economies are not as exposed to complex global value chains protects them but what about absent. commodities this is this just about economies who rely on commodities. of course commodities are a major avenue through which the trade conflict impacts african countries and we also need to