list was how it goes after the rouge of the founder of the shell, or institute, the way to evelyn de larosa. and she remains prominently there in the list of 70 people. the top 20 or 30 people were people who had spoken that conferences of assurance to, to and the only thing that they shared was a commitment to try to stop the war. and we fought and continue to fight about everything else under the sun, the same to sign with. so those voices do you think it's and i know these guys like you and there's journalists like myself and others who are least trying to ask the right questions as to why we keep hopping from war to war to war. and i mean, what are we up to now 75000000000 and in, in, in the ukraine. i mean, money we spent in 20 years and a half can a stand for no, actually, we got, actually one of those 20 years is crazy. and i guess i, i disagree with that. we do get something out of a lot of harrell whenever we got a heroine epidemic. because under the control of nato forces and the united states and the british in particular, in southern afghanistan and in the on province. what happ