larry, put this on. >> larry: put it on?orry, and water-soaked pants, and sorry about this. this is good, now. sorry about this. it's not fitting. i am going to hold it like this, larry, and the chin straps, do you see that -- >> larry: yeah. >> don't try to touch it. now, here we go. come here, come here. echo, echo, whoa! are you all right, larry. >> larry: what is on my head? >> do you want to do it? you can do it. let's let cannon do it. watch this. told the chin traps tight, and you can't bend your head. echo, echo. whoa! is that something? >> yeah. >> do it one more time. this is fun. let's hear it for cannon. >> larry: we'll be back with the remaining moments tonight with jack hanna. all the animals we will look back at right after the break. nobody in my family ever had a heart attack. if anything, i thought i'd get hit by a bus, but not a heart. my doctor put me on an aspirin regimen to help protect my life. [ male announcer ] be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen. check with your doctor

"dancing with the stars" next on larry king live. >> larry: season 11 of "dancing with the stars." joining us the four contestants who are still standing and still dancing. actress jennifer grey, bristol palin, the former first daughter of alaska. the grammy winning singer and actress brandy, and kyle massey, the youngest competitor this year. let's take a look back and see what got the contestants where they are today. >> i love the taste of brandy in the evening. after this, i could have more and more and more. >> the way you undulate your body, girlfriend, i see a future for you. >> it's like a sexy, hot, energizing bionic bunny dancing. >> that was by far the most fun i have had as a viewer, as a judge. >> larry: as we say in college basketball, the final four. jennifer, you surprised you made it this far? >> i'm grateful and glad i'm chugging along. >> bristol, why did you say yes to doing this? >> because i knew people were going to talk about me no matter what. >> larry: brandy, are you surprised at how far you have gotten? >> i am surprised. >> larry: you're not known as a

larry. you can let larry touch these. put them on each side of him. those are little babies, larry. >> larry: ooh. they still -- >> i'm sorry, i forgot to tell you. when they're born, their quills -- it takes about 24 hours. their quills get hard when they're born. see if you can put it on the desk. isn't that beautiful? little african porcupines. >> larry: that's his relative, right? >> oh, yeah, that's his baby -- or her baby, yes. can you imagine, larry, obviously -- hold him right there, yeah. >> larry: what a beautiful little girl you are. >> you made a good point. the quills -- they do not throw their quills. when you touch the quill area it comes out in your hand. the north american porcupine has a barb on the end. a lot of lands, they try to eat the porcupine, they die from the quills in the mouth. >> larry: good luck. adult and baby crested. now, the bineteron. >> take these home for the kids. look at this. that's pretty good. >> larry: cannon's show and tell. porcupine quills. >> t

i might need your help, larry. >> larry: but he's a very famous person. the power you had over him was his fame. other people who treat people poorly and hit them, they're not well-known. they're slaves to them. they have trouble running away. you didn't have that problem. mel gibson. >> but look at the power he had. >> larry: she's vulnerable physically. >> in the courtroom, he has endless attorneys spending fortunes. probably had ten applications to stop her from speaking first amendment speeches and tried to go everything to discourage her. >> i have to say something really important. the domestic violence hearing has not been set. it's been six months. i have witnesses. it's not been set. because his lawyers being paid, the more aggressive they are, the more millions he pays them. paternity laws as such the system is broken. it needs to be redone. the remnants of maybe the british system where control of your child is lying in the hands of one person and also in paternity, if you're domestic violence victim, in my situation, i'm the poor one, so the p

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>> larry: you may adopt him. >> i know. >> larry: all right. and we have the argentine tango, which is another sexy dance. he's really excited about that one. we also have the samba, which is fun. >> larry: the argentine tango? >> different styles. >> larry: i thought -- >> some are fast-paced. i've been googling them and youtubing some of the dances. the argentine tango is more with the feet, and more close hold. >> stop, kyle. >> she choreographs. she doesn't want me to let go of her. >> larry: do you have a girlfriend, kyle? >> i do. lacey's trying to mess all that up, you know what i'm saying? lacey's all over me. >> you wish. >> larry: it almost doesn't matter whether they win or lose. tom, i understand we have a couple of great looking guests coming up. >> larry, you and i will handle the mature male category. but dimples burke will join us as well at the desk. ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] at&t and blackberry have teamed up to keep your business moving. blackberry torch now just $99.99. only from at&t. rethink possible. >> larry: we welcome -

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if you want to clear thing up, you go on the larry king show. >> larry: why? >> because it is a global experience because there is credibility. if you tell your story on the larry king show, it gets a different kind of play than if you went on one of the nightly kind of shows. this show. this show. it has been an incredible, for me as an author. i wrote you a letter when you decided to step down, to tell you. i'm going to cry. it has been so valuable having this friendship with you and with you and how we've become friends over the years. being friend with wenty, end up doing a lot of benefits. i'm sure you know. that she is always getting you to sing or show up somewhere. somewhere for somebody. >> larry: three words you don't want to hear from wendy. by the way. >> exactly. or -- breaking news, sorry. its usually when you're in there all made up. they go, sorry. have to cancel. >> larry: that's hard to bump a guest. >> it is the worst. >> larry: we almost bumped you tonight. >> we almost did. >> larry: isn't that hard? >> it was great having it happen to me

am i going to say larry king asked me? >> larry: who married you? it was a traditional wedding other than in india. it was katy's background is of course christian. so we were very respectful. >> larry: a minister? >> i don't know much about the old religion. i know much about god. i'm sure he wasn't a chef or a passer by or a tiger. >> larry: is it hard if you're not religious and she is. >> i'm respectful of all religions and they're the same. the thing i said, a dog will recognize his master in any clothing. >> larry: you believe in god. >> yes, yes, i believe very strongly in the presence of god in all of us. >> larry: he watches over you? >> i think he's present within us. i believe that strongly. >> larry: what happens when you die? >> i hope when i die, it would be a big party. and a statue would be made and put it next to abraham lincoln. >> larry: in india? >> in india. >> larry: what's your father do? >> my dad, i didn't grow up with my dad. >> larry: just you and your mother. >> she was sick. i'm the only child of a single mother. i have

i went crazy, larry.earch about human trafficking, and hi no idea about the magnitude. i said now i know about this. i can't be silent about this because it would be like allowing it to happen, and i went to washington, d.c., and i started meeting with amazing activists, people who are my mentors today, and -- and i'm doing my part, a little bit. there's so much that needs to be done. >> larry: i understand also that you -- you went to thailand after the tsunami and haiti after the earthquake. >> yes. >> larry: and that these experiences affected you a great deal. >> well, that's what happens. traffickers take advantage of situations like that because children become orphans or semi-orphans and they are vulnerable and they go and they kidnap the children so i -- i went there and i said this could be happening right now. media, listen to me. this could be happening right now so let's be aware, and i had the opportunity to meet the younger survivor baby wave. baby wade was a monday old and he was in the hos

. >> larry: tonight, janet jackson is here with a new look. >> shedding all the old skin. >> larry: a new book and a challenging new film role. >> if you call to say you're sorry, you call somebody else. >> larry: has she abandoned singing for acting? >> i'm finally getting around to doing something that i have wanted to do since i was a kid. >> larry: janet jackson for the hour next on "larry king live." janet jackson returns to "larry king live." ms. jackson if you're nasty. she's a grammy winning singer, author of a forthcoming book "true you." her new movie is "for colored girls." she stars in the tyler perry film which opens in theaters tomorrow, november 5th. it's her third collaboration with perry. watch. >> just last week my ex-old man came in saying, baby, i don't know how she got your number, i'm sorry. >> no, no, this is it. oh, baby, you know i was high, i'm sorry. >> i'm only human. if we were perfect, we wouldn't have nothing to strive for, so you might as well go on and forgive me because i'm sorry. >> this one is it. i do you like i do you because i thought you could t

"larry king" starts now. >> larry: tonight, natalie cole exclusive. the singer's life was saved with a kidney transplant, and now for the first time, she's speaking publicly about it, right here. >> when they called to say that there was a kidney for me, the lady said something about the family has requested that it goes to natalie cole. >> larry: with the donor's family, an incredible story of faith and hope and friendship. natalie cole next on "larry king live." ♪ and forever more ♪ and forever more ♪ that's how you'll stay ♪ that's how you'll stay >> larry: good evening. natalie cole is the grammy-winning singer, and in march of 2009, revealed on this program that she needed a new kidney and got a transplant in may of 2009. she shares that incredible story in a terrific new book, "love brought me back: a journey of loss and gain." have it right here and there you see its cover. it's a great pleasure to welcome her back to "larry king live," the first interview together with natalie and the donor family, by the way, they're around, who gave her the

poor larry, you had to be somewhere. >> larry: gorbachev in texas.ak. >> they were good sports. not only did he speak long but had to be in preted. >> we were proud he was here. >> larry: he said, i wanted to be here and i will speak. that was some night, though, the entertainment. right here at the ballpark. >> that's right. that's right. >> larry: boy, what a -- was points of light, by the way, your idea? >> absolutely. >> not sure it was my idea but it was a statement i made in one of my inaugural addresses i think talking about thousand points of light. and then it took on from there but i guess it was my idea, our idea. >> remember what you said about george? you have one fault only. you never take credit. it was your idea. it was your speech. and you did say it. >> larry: so take credit. >> take credit. >> i take credit. >> your idea. >> larry: we'll be back with more of the bushes in houston. don't go away. [ woman ] alright, so this tylenol 8 hour lasts 8 hours. but aleve can last 12 hours. and aleve was proven to work better on pain than tyl

larry king starts right now. >> larry: tonight, oscar winner jeff bridges. he's given life to "starman," "the baker boys." bad blake and the iconic dude. >> that's what you call me. >> larry: now he's taking on a john wayne classic. >> help me. >> i couldn't do nothing for you, son. >> larry: and maybe his most important role ever. >> 17 million kids, that's one in four, live in insecure households. >> larry: the fearless jeff bridges for the hour next on "larry king live." what a great pleasure to welcome back to "larry king live," it's been too long between visits jeff bridges the academy award winning actor. a brilliant, brilliant talent he is. his new film "tron: legacy" comes out next month. he plays rooster cogburn in the coen brothers' remake of "true grit." that will be released christmas day. he's also national spokesperson for share our strengths, no kid hungry campaign. we'll talk about that, too, and we welcome him back. good to see you. december is pretty busy with you. >> oh, man, yeah. got a birthday, too. >> larry: how old? >> 61. >> larry: a

me to do so, larry.back. >> larry: did you hibernate? >> yes. i started working in 1994 and i did not stop until like two days ago. it was very important for me to find silence. my trips to india just spending time in the u.s. going across country. really finding silence is something that i was not used to. something that i was afraid of. i haven't been more creative since when i took that time. >> larry: you came out on your website, too? >> i sent a twitter. >> larry: march 29th of this year you published a letter that concluded i am proud to say i am a homosexual man. i am very blessed to be who i am. was that hard to look at those letters? >> i was so ready. >> larry: not scared? >> i couldn't take it anymore. i was ready to -- i wrote that letter on a friday. i think i made it public on a monday. so that weekend for me was eternal. but, you know, i wanted to wait for everyone in the office to come back. you know? to work. and i sent it to everybody first. my mother was coming to miami where i live,

>> larry: what do you mean? >> no, i'm just joking. >> larry: not again?hat could be next? stay with us. on your next business trip, pack your marriott rewards visa card. get triple points every time you use your card at marriott. apply now and earn 22,500 bonus points when you use your card and enjoy a free night stay. so, before you know it, work time becomes well-deserved downtime. apply now at marriott.com/freenightstay. you've got staying power. >>> be sure to watch "american morning" tomorrow at 6:00 a.m. >> we know what it was like to be there. >> what are you aware of? >> yesterday they were giving out two huge lies. >> let's just go with who we know at this point. >> we'll run our 6:00 a.m. phone calls from our viewers. >> working all night to bring you the best news in the morning. emmy nominated "american morning." >> larry: okay, what's next, you said you would like to do a broadway thing. >> yes, i would for sure. and i'm eventually going to. because like i said, that's always been a dream of mine since i was a kid. when i'm that attached, tha

>> larry: it's next on "larry king live." good evening. oksana grigorieva is mel gibson's exgirlfriend. they have a 1-year-old child together and are locked in a bitter legal dispute. mr. gibson has sought a gag order to prevent any public parties from speaking about the case. the judge rejected that. mel has never commented about the conversations. with us, martin garbus, who's father lives in moscow, her mother is with her here, and her father was a russian war hero in the world war ii against the nazis. how did you meet mel gibson? >> we were introduced by a mutual friend and there were cards on a table. and the friend took my card and put his cell phone number on my card and so mel called me a couple of weeks later. >> larry: were you playing piano when you met him? >> i was just at the dining table in the restaurant. >> larry: so, he called you? >> yeah, he did. >> larry: and you knew he was married, right? >> yes, i did know he was married, but for nine months, we were just riding together. we hardly saw each other. it was like a fri

>> larry: welcome back to this "modern family" edition of "larry king live."t the green room where the kids of the show are getting ready by destroying the place. they'll join us shortly. two partners have adopted a baby girl from vietnam. let's take a look at them in a scene from hysterically "modern family." >> i'm -- >> emergency assistance. this is -- >> we lost our baby in the car and people are judging us. >> i swear to god i'm going to break it. >> you will get glass on her. >> tell your wife to replace. >> that's a man. >> really? >> don't worry, lily. >> we have the signal. the door should be unlocked now. >> check the door. check the door. >> it is not unlocked. oh! oh! that is amazing. how did they do that? >> i don't know. we got it. thank you. >> larry: that's your favorite scene? >> i love that scene, yeah. but they actually took out eric's favorite line. he goes did that come from space? unlocking the door which was an improv, yeah. >> that was one of the first scenes after the pilot. that was the first episode last season and one of the first s

what's next, larry? >> larry: russell brand, the book "bookie

>> larry: okay. i'll take your word for it. >> i mean, if young people, anyone watching tonight who's in their 20s will go and google norman thomas -- >> larry: they'll learn a lot. >> they'll learn something. yes. >> larry: our friend president clinton was knocked around in '94, came back, won big in '96. can obama come back? >> oh, i think with some of the people who have been elected, i mean, just look what happened this past day or two with the congressman in florida who was going to have as his chief of staff the crazy talk show lady. there's enough -- >> larry: she wanted to shoot -- >> yes. >> larry: on site. >> she won't be the last one, by the way. you'll see more of that sort of thing with the new congress. i think with some of the people that have been elected, president obama's approval ratings will start to rise within the next three or four months as people become aware of what the tea party and the republicans are really up to. here's the mistake that he shouldn't make as far as what c

now back to "larry king." >> larry: we're back with the dolly sisters. somers returns and kathy griffin. do you remember the first time on the show? >> it was a long time ago. >> larry: 23 times you've been on. >> you were in washington, d.c. >> larry: your first time you were nervous. >> i was very nervous. absolutely. and i demanded the whole hour. >> but when i first went on -- >> i still do. get off, girl. i know the necklace is $19.95. i get it, somers. i got it. >> $39.95. >> i'll take four if i can just get there in time. i'll call. sorry. go ahead. >> larry: you were in washington. >> you were in washington and you were cable and it wasn't at that time as prestigious to guest on cable shows. do you recall that moment in time? >> this isn't really going your way. >> yes, it is. >> larry: i'm a little hurt. >> the most prestigious of all. >> larry: here are some of the incredible musicians we've had on this show. watch. ♪ see the water lie on the ground ♪ ♪ and where the heavens open ♪ you are only sweet 16 ♪ everybody going to dance, everybody goi

larry: do you think so?um, probably. >> oh, god. >> larry: you taught three classes -- >> i did. >> larry: you teach -- >> i teach writing. i teach english at northern virginia community college. >> larry: why do you continue to work? >> well, it's what i do. you know, i have been an english teacher for 30 years and it's what i love. when we were elected i said to joe, i'm going to continue to teach. >> i strongly encouraged it. look, i think it's really important that someone in jill's position as second lady or the wife of an elected official if they want to has their own separate sphere. she's deply involved in matters relating to the white house. besides, she loves it. >> larry: he's always been supportive of my career and whatever i do. >> larry: were you teaching when you met? >> yeah, i was. >> larry: at the college level? >> no. i taught high school for 13 years actually. >> larry: why do you like teaching so much? >> i think especially at the community college, i think i do make a difference in thei

"larry king live." good evening. "modern family" is in its second season on abc. the show won only six emmys including outstanding comedy, outstanding supporting actor in a comedy. let's meet the cast. sofia vergara, ed o'neill, eric stonestreet is cameron. jesse tyler ferguson is mitchell. julie bowen plays claire. ty burrell. let's look at what they're all about. watch. >> okay, everybody. gather around. jake, come here. tonight we dine in the traditional colombia recipes of my grandmother. even though she is no longer with me, i'm very happy because i have all of you. to aunt maria -- >> beautiful, gloria. just like my mitchell. >> oh! >> whoa! >> larry: the two funniest shows on television, one is animated. that's "family guy." the other is "modern family." which is deserving of all the we'll start with ed o'neill, the veteran of the crew. why does this show work? >> well, i think it's a combination of a lot of things, larry. the writing. start with the writing. two guys, two producers, show creator

. >> larry: next on "larry king live." what a great pleasure to welcome to "larry king live" for the umpteenth time the bushes at the houstonian hotel, in houston, texas. president george h.w. bush, the 41st president of the united states and barbara, the former first lady who didn't wear her suspenders. >> oh, darn it. >> larry: you should have. how are you feeling? >> very well. >> larry: what was wrong? >> i don't know. but may i give you some advice? never ask anyone over 70 how they feel. they'll tell you. >> larry: but you were taken to the hospital. was it an emergency? >> mm-hmm. but i feel great. that's it. >> larry: you're not going to tell me what was the matter? >> tell him. >> you mean when i had -- >> the -- >> oh, no, i'm not going to tell him that. when i had the perforated ulcer? >> yeah. >> larry: that's what it was? it wasn't the heart? >> no, i had the heart. i did have that. i have a pig valve. don't say oink or sooy, sooy. >> larry: they gave you the pig. >> which is better you don't have to take coum

>> there is. >> larry: why? >> i don't think there's going to be, actually, larry.hink right now we have 44% of the people getting mbas are women. it used to be less than 30% so i think that's one ticket that a lot of people need to check off. i don't think it's essential that you have an mba but i think the culture kind of looks to that as one of the steps. we have 60% of the undergraduate degrees now are going to women, 60%. there's two for every two men graduating from undergraduate, three women are graduating. over half of the lawyers, law school, and medical school. so it's important. the pool is there. and i think the demographics are in our favor that if you can say in our favor. the fact is that we're going to be, you know, in our country, we're barely replacing ourselves with two children. western europe is less than replacing themselves. and today it's not really in the post industrial world, it is not how strong you are or how tall and muscular you are. it's really how you can vision and lead and collaborate and i think women are going to partner with men

>> larry: we're back. are you falling? >> yeah. it's okay. >> larry: hang on.are a kiss on the screen. it finally happened this season. watch what led up to the big moment. >> buying a shirt, it is not a kiss-worthy moment. >> i didn't know there was a list. please tell us what is on the list? >> what is not on the list, finding jalapeno stuffed olives. making the light on maple. every time we see a vw. >> you don't like kiss buggy? >> it is a way for you to be needy. i don't appreciate you making me feel bad. nobody kisses on a bowling alley. >> i almost got a turkey. i feel like i'm wearing the same outfit from the show. >> larry: what was that scene like to do? >> well, that was a scene, you know, leading up to the -- in the episode -- >> larry: never kissed a man before? >> yeah. i was in a movie once where i made out with a dude, yeah. >> larry: what was it like for you, jess? >> eric was a very gentle kisser. i love the way the writers incorporated that moment. it was more than just a kiss. it was dealing with -- with the way mitchell was raised and the i

all next on "larry king live." all next on "larry king live." vi -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com >> larry: it's a great pleasure to welcome you to "larry king live" as always, a good friend, an old friend, the vice president of the united states, joe biden. thanks for coming. >> it's great to be back with you, larry. >> larry: always good. this is the hundredth time. >> it's a long time. i told you this before. my mother who lived with me passed away last january. i never once walked in her house late in the evening that you weren't on the air. so i miss her and i'm really going to miss you, man. the country's going to miss you doing this. >> larry: let's get into things. early today, president obama made you the focus on getting this treaty signed. i'm told today no democratic president ever had a nuclear treaty. >> that's true. this idea that somehow some republican pundits are talking about you can't let obama have a win, this is not an obama win. this is a continuation of a bipartisan policy started with ronald reagan in this case. it'

. >> larry: all right.uh. >> larry: what was he like to work with and are you surprised that his career is a director? michael chimino -- >> it was michael's first film he's the fellow who directed "the deer hunter" and "heaven's gate". >> larry: and got lost. >> he got a raw deal on that movie. for my money that's a classic. >> larry: why is it called the great bomb of all time. >> well, because, it got a couple of bad reviews then all the reviewers kind of got on board and so much of the movie going experience has to do with what you as a member of the audience brings into the experience. and if you heard just terrible things bit that all the experts say it's terrible, if you go at all you're going to -- >> larry: kris kristofferson was great in that. >> he was great in that. john hurt was a wonderful -- but you were asking about clint. >> larry: yeah. >> he -- clint, who gave chimon this job -- mike had written "magnum force," i think, and, you know, you've heard stories about chimino -- how many takes h

and "larry king live" starts right now. >> larry: tonight, general colin powell. any second thoughts about president obama? >> he should have focused on the economy and doing something about unemployment. >> larry: how strained the relationship between him and cheney and rumsfeld. can the united states win in afghanistan? looks back at his role in history and ahead to america's place in the world. colin powell is next for the hour on "larry king live." >> larry: great pleasure to welcome back to "larry king live" a good friend. we have a month to go with the show. and so honored to have him kick off this week. general colin powell, united states army retired. he was secretary of state under president george w. bush, former chairman of the joint chiefs, founder and chair of the colin powell center in harlem. i will visit the center next month. center for policy studies affiliated with city college of new york. and founding chairman of america's promise. it was six years ago today that colin powell announced he was resigning as secretary of state. boy, time goes. >>

got a birthday too. >> larry: how old? >> 61. >> larry: a young 61. it's weird to have two movies in a month. >> it is very weird. >> larry: how did that happen? >> coming out about a week apart. i don't know. it's just the way those things -- >> larry: what did you do first? >> i did "tron" first, i think. we went back and forth there for awhile so i was kind of making. >> larry: shooting both at once. >> i finished one then i did a pickup on one then went back and did a little pick upon the other one, you know. >> larry: how did they get the idea to remake "true grit"? >> you know, i wondered that same thing and when the brothers invited me to come into that project, i thought, you know why do you want to do that? didn't that -- >> larry: john wayne. >> sure. academy award. >> absolutely, and, you know, they said, well, first of all, we're not making a remake of the film "true grit," we are referencing the book, a wonderful book by charles portis released in the '60s and i said, oh, okay. i read the book, and then i understood. the book is very coen