>> larry bush from friends of ethics when this was passed as prop e nothing in the material that went to the commission that explained those prop j was being repelled and nothing told to the board of supervisors when they did the rewrite not in the voters handing handbook we can people served on the commission that h said i have no idea and members of the board of supervisors that like the president of the board of supervisors that said i had no idea so when mr. raven put together the section for the grand jury he repeated the quotes under the nicole and the board of supervisors and there's no mention in any of this about repel the public benefits prohibition there was an earlier effort by members of the commission to repeal the section having go to do with the board of supervisors but couldn't find a section you'll not find a sponsor for that 0 that's not the way it is at city hall of this is not election year people understand the dynamics but certainly when your talking about things like tomcast or ecology or other types people with special permits there are questions raised all th

i'm larry bush for friends of ethics i've spent them time with the urban development i saw a number of contractors with hud who were debarred in fact they published a list of people that were debarred from participation or a full debarment it is 5 years limited the denial is one year it could be a real estate agency that misrepresented information or an contractor or could be a housing authority official i think the department is a serious to tell not use it frivolously but i think the commission should have the authority to use debarment if warranted otherwise you'll run go into cases that did money 4r5ur7bd and face penalty by the fcc and city but then went on to still have city contracts why would you still give city contracts that are worth more than the penalty into effect you've fined them because they were rob the public so it is warned warranted in a number of cases. >> why is the process that the city attorney mentioned why isn't that the way to handle it rather than through the ethics commission. >> well the city attorney has done it to a property developer here in san franci

. >> thank you larry bush for the friends of ethics i think the gentleman did a good job i agree with a hearing establishing were there needs to be legislation is critical and should be in the read for the full commission friends of ethics will be happen to participate in the discussions and provide whatever information just to good enough a fuller context under the current mayor have we've seen put together a committee for the operation of bundling money for people in the business and the mayor makes decisions where to allocate money and we saw that in 2012, the first check was for $25,000 for chuck conway came within weeks to the mire adapt a new tax to mr. conway and his previous enterprises the rest of the money was $400,000 all of it in 57 figure numbers almost all from busy about to benefit from the city's rewrite of tax laws that would underscore why the question is raised the same thing for the board of supervisors establish a ballot measure committee and they can accept contributes from people that are having decisions made by the board of supervisors memo cites a few court c

i'm larry bush >> i'm larry bush the unsettled budget issue. i was delighted to hear mr. st. croix thinks form 700 will be searchable because that will make a big difference in terms of being able to see where the conflicts might exist. the grand jury also i recommended creating electronic database on contracts for the same reason. i would like to recommend that you ask for a budget whether you submit it now or now at least know what it would cost. currently, as i understand the process, if you receive the conduct notification by e-mail and then they are essentially put on the pdf so they're not searchable to go through in the same way you also be true on [inaudible] travel money. it's worth noting, it was an opinion from i believe it was the rimshot law firm that stated that no one may gift an official of more than $440. and right now there's an aggregate for the entire year. travel money is not excluded from that. yet, we know that we are seeing people who are giving five dollars are more for travel. how much more and for how militants in one of the gifts they give, we don'

>> larry bush from friends of ethics just a point of information while it doesn't go to the election department the clerk is responsible for accepting documents from you'll see california and not only from san francisco submissions so therefore they don't have a system that allows you to go down and find out the slate mailers involving the san francisco candidates by moving it to ethics you have that access it's a observe that disclosure. >> any other public comment? all right. all in favor >> i. >> opposed passed unanimously 4, 0 now we've gone through the items item one 2, and 4 directed the staff 67 as well but 67 is a more straightforward but directed the staff to take some further action and i would ask, sir how would you prioritize those recognizing there's a fairly heavy burden where should he start and just give me a week i know that the fcc has their regulatory calendar it makes sense that seemed the commission very much want us to move on item one we can draft the proposed language and begin our i p month to month and gathering records we could come back to you with that la

. >> a i'm larry bush from friends of ethic i have a question about drill down the information if you're trying to search for who a donor was an over of a company it's not easy to do we don't use standard language is there my interest on the part of the committee in standardizing the categories of employment that hass someone has to make that search easier, and secondly, do you show where the donor lives to see x amount of donors are living in the community or that couch and the third thing whether or not a donor is employed by a nonprofit or in the case of a ballot measure is a candidate thank you. >> any other public comment? the question raised by mr. bush is what i have information is there as far as the donor in our database >> we do have information about the employer and job toilet of donors however those are on fields they're not boxes you check you're absolutely correct it's not standardized i look to try to see if there's a relationship between certain types of employment a tendency to give to certain candidates but it difficult to put together a maintenance of at this point. >

>> i'm larry bush from friends of ethic we were one felt people that brought this forward for a number of reasons we say contributions that are arranged by city contractors who are not allowed themselves to give money but can put the check or raise money from other people so we asked the question of the ethics commission and she said that's a will that in the law there is no prohibition on people raising money for city contractors and who may not themselves girlfriend money we noticed in other jurisdictions there are rules that is a a city commissioner may not raise money for the people that appoint them that's a play to play politics so your point will the universe that should be captured or people that have an interest whether an appointment a lease or contract is on point i don't know in terms of 6 what the gentleman said about future interests and whether you would say if there's going to be something in the next 12 months include that in the universe in a general sense i think we do need to close the loophole in part to respond to public criticism. >> if you made the candidate ide

speaker: thank you, i'm larry bush on behalf of the friends of ethics. that consists of a dozen of people active on ethics issues including five former commissions of this body. former staff in charge of signs and common cause for san francisco, and others who have been involved in passing legislation. we have several points that we raised in the interested person's meeting. we think mr. mcmarty did excellent job of -- we appreciate this effort because it's a stand out to what we've seen in the past. i would like to extend our appreciation on that part. one of the issues we raised repeatedly was this was narrowly drawn that it didn't encompass the issues on the table that need to be daelts with in the upcoming elections and as part of that question, this body never had a public hearing to discuss the fact that you were going to take up this issue and allow the public to comment on whether or not there should be a broader review of the issues that are involved and any changes to the campaign finance reform. we sent you a member - owe -- we sent a memo. so

bush unpatriotic? >> he said his policy against the core was unpatriotic. >> that's not fair. >> larry: i'll tell you theifference. giuliani said obama doesn't love this country. john adams was called a hermaphrodite. politicians are -- (laughter) let's take this out of political language and put this in rapper language. >> okay. >> larry: when people think of us -- >> racist! that's racist! >> larry: let's imagine obama's jay-z and julianna is vanilla ice. what should he do about vanilla? >> it's kind of similar, you know like rap beats and political beats. i feel like political beats is a little more violent. (laughter) >> larry: you're from detroit. you've had an amazing career at a young age. when you hear love of country what is your idea? what does that mean to you? >> love of country? i feel like when you appreciate where you're from and when you give back any way you can. for instance, i know my grandmother taught me. she served in world war ii as well, one of the first black female captains there. (applause) she was one of the first female cops in detroit in the street a teacher, counselor, grea

bush-clinton fatigue big? >> it is definitely an issue if it comes to that. another name that larry mentioned, focusing on scot walker a second. with the potential to be a very formidable opponent to jeb bush's right -- >> why is that and how is that? especially since his performance on handling certain issues has not really been polished and precise. why so far he seems to be the favorite there in cpac? >> well because i think that what he's been -- he's been able to do something so far in early polling that we have not seen since george w. bush appealing across the party. the more upscale, affluent manager side of the party. mitt romeny john mccain, and jeb bush is likely the favorite of that party, the mori popular evangelical side of the party, huk bee in 2008 and san tor up. walker to a far greater except than santorum or huckabee doing well and showing strength among the more upscale manager conservatives, making him the challenger if he emerges from iowa. that's the key. does iowa elevate the candidate who cannot win or elevate a candidate umtsly as only appeal appealing to a

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larry summers is suddenly -- >> if she doesn't -- politics have a vacuum. >> jeb bush was in your town i thought the written speech was interesting to me. i thought the oratorical skills are rough. >> you have seen the republican candidates pick up the mantra of picking up the lower end of the economic ladder and expanding opportunity. one thing that was notable to us was that he gave the speech at the same time wayne was meeting with people who were behind on property taxes talking about taking their houses. you had hundreds and hundreds of contracts. >> in that hall at the same time that jeb bush is talking about doing things differently. the question is what policies are you going to implement? >> we talk about chris christie and rand paul not handling questions from the press very well. jeb bush was stronger in the q&a. >> give them a much better speech. >> before we go box.com hosted an article by an anonymous member of congress entitled "confessions of a congressman" listed nine secrets from capitol hill. these stood out to me. congress best to money. think about that you are pay

john: that is larry from south memphis talking about jeb bush.reaking down a list of advisers that have been released by jeb bushes exploratory committee. his foreign-policy team is your really familiar to those who know the previous bush administration. the list of advisers here. the pink dot on the left, those advisers who worked in the george w. bush administration michael hayden, michael chertoff, michael mukasey, some of the names. those from the h w bush administration, apollo points, some of the name -- paul wolfowitz a name in there. 19 of the 21 people released in the issue of for policy worked in the administration of his father or his brother. the washington post noticed that foreign-policy teams of any republican president would probably draw heavily from the past three republican administrations. it notes that the romney team branched out a bit more. we want to get your thoughts. ohio, line for independents. caller: thank you for c-span. that was nice hearing an adult, but i cannot hear you. john: i can hear you, go ahead. caller: th

larry summers is suddenly a populist. >> suddenly -- if she doesn't -- politics abhors a vacuum, so somebody will get there. >> steven jeb bushure. >> how did he do? >> i have to say i thought the written speech was interesting to me. i thought his oratorical skills need a little -- >> it's interesting you've seen this republican candidates pick up this mantra of picking up the lower end of the economic ladder and expanding opportunity. one thing that was notable to us was that he gave the speech at the same time wayne county was meeting with people who are behind on their property taxes, talking about taking their houses. you had hundreds and hundreds of -- >> that's a stark don contrast. >> sure in that hall at the same time as that the jeb bush is talking about doing things differently and the question is, what policies are you going to implement to -- >> by the way i thought we talked about chris christie and rand paul not handling questions from the press very well. jeb bush was stronger in the q&a in both informal and formal -- >> -- out of jeb bush's shadow, a much better speech. >> that he does. before we go vox.com p

larry: some of the most reform-minded leaders in the world simply don't have two terms, or their term is truncated. if you look at schroder in germany, george h w bushone term, but he set up this economy for the great opportunities we had under bill clinton. bill clinton's administration took it even further, but i do believe we can't look at -- look at harry truman. sometimes, the most dynamic leaders and up being unpopular until the history books are written about them. charlie: thank you. great to see you. thank you for joining us. larry, thank you for the hour. see you next time. ♪ cory: live from your three in san francisco, welcome to "bloomberg west." i'm cory johnson. janet yellen said the fed will not raise rates before it sees more improvement in the economy. in testimony before the senate banking committee today, yellen repeated the pledge to be patient.

larry: some of the most reform-minded leaders in the world simply don't have two terms or their term is truncated. if you look at schroder in germany george h w bush, one term, but he set up this economy for the great opportunities we had under bill clinton. bill clinton's administration took it even further, but i do believe we can't look at -- look at harry truman. sometimes, the most dynamic leaders and up being unpopular until the history books are written about them. charlie: thank you. great to see her. thank you for joining us. larry, thank you for the hour. see you next time. ♪ . . >> i'm john heilemann. >> i'm mark halperin. with all due respect to rahm emanuel, if today doesn't go well, you can always go back to your day job, undersecretary for go [bleep] yourself. >> happy national tortilla chip day, sports fans. in our lineup tonight, pension tension and the poppa bear bear trap. but first, step right up, step right up, hillary land is open. secretary clinton is speaking at a conference for women in silicon valley. we will show you some of that speech later and you can watch it all now on bloomberg.com. why is hillary clinton

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