steven greenhouse is the labor reporter for "the new york times" and larry cohen is the president of workers of the america. great to have both of you with us tonight. steven, you first. why are republicans just he hellbent on sabotaging the national labor relations board. >> republicans have never been big fans of the national labor relations board, especially when it's a democratic president trying to name people to the board. they see the board as a tool that helps companies unionize, or when they fire workers seeking to unionize. so testimony the republicans generally don't love the board. there was this big case in south carolina a few years ago when the labor board said that boeing had acted illegally in trying to open up a factory in south carolina, and that sent many red state senators, red state politicians ballistic. and then, also, in, federal appeals court ruled that president obama's recess appointments to the board were illegal. >> that's really the critical point there. now they are making it so this board can't even function. mr. cohen, i know this is a hot issue with