. >> to begin with, i would really thank you for having mentioned my collaboration with larry collins larry collins is unfortunately dead now for five years, an american journalist with, i spent 50 years of my life researching the world and writing books, and i think the two of us, we really were the most beautiful franco-american combination that you can think of. cleery was the son of a lawyer there. iowa's from paris. eyes stand told do we met one day in a cafeteria of of the paris headquarters tornado. we immediately became friends and it is true that thanks to garlic snails and really odd french dishes i have attached leery to france also thanks to the cathedrals and some of our museums of course. and one day, he came into my office there in his headquarters and he was in tears. i said what is the matter with you larry? he said he disaster has just happened. i said, what is it? i have just been discharge. i said to him, and the french army when this happens to us we open champagne. [laughter] and i understand larry was so sad to leave france to go back to the united states that i

larry: thank you very much for clearing things up. sheriff jim alderden, the sheriff of larimer county, colorado there in ft. collins.

, sheriff jim aldernan the sheriff of larimer county, colorado, and larry abramson, district attorney they come to us from ft. collins sheriff, what's your reaction to what mr. heene had to say tonight? >> well, i just saw the interview that you did with him a few minutes ago and quite honestly i'm shocked that he would make such statements. the evidence against mr. heene and mayumi at this point is really overwhelming. there's no doubt in my mind that this thing was a hoax, and i really doubt that there's very few people in america who don't understand at this point that this was an elaborate hoax perpetrated by richard and mayumi. >> larry: larry, what do you make of what he said? >> well, it's hard to understand why he is now saying what he's saying, because this is something that was discussed very thoroughly with his attorneys, and i was under the impression, as were the other prosecutors in my office, that this was, the hoax was very clearly established, and so it is surprising that now he is coming out and saying that he was coerced or whatever reason he is now changing his position. >> larry: richard heene as

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larry collins is unfortunately debt now for five years. he is an american journalist with whom i spent 50 years of my life researching the world and writing books, and i think the two of us we really were the most beautiful franco american combination that you can think of. larry was from connecticut, the son of a lawyer. i was from paris. we met one day in the cafeteria of the paris headquarters for nato. we immediately be fell trends and it's true thanks to garlic snails and odd french dishes are attached larry to france also thanks to the cathedrals and some of our museums of course. and one day, you know, he came in my office and had quarter and he was in tears and i said what is the matter with you, larry? he says a disaster has just happened. and i said what is it? i have just been discharged. i said to him you know in the french army when this happens to us we open champagne. [laughter] and i understood that larry was so sad to leave france to go back to the united states that i was able the next day to give him a nice piece of news