deliberated i declined i deliberated with them there ever half for and half against and according to larry combreven were answered they felt be comfortable in making the recommendations they have the problem is that information that was shared to you guess a small study committee didn't get out there to f i u and the retirees and didn't think it got out to the broader manipulating of local 21 so definitely i think there's been a problem with information when i was with the planning commission the public testified the next time around when the committee the commission took things under add time the staff summarized the concerns and responder to them by today it was supervisor i mean commissioner paskin-jordan that had to ask the questions that people here have and have and it was commissioner driscoll who said we need to look at the pros and cons of allocations and that really seems to be missing in the written and verbal materials of staff except what came out of today but your trust i would certainly hope in the future you had a workshop format and allow this to happen again, today switching to ano