i talked to larry flynt, the publisher of "hustler" magazine. >> michael: yes, i know who that is. >> was pushing for aaron knew -- legalize -- casino gambling, which was one of his fetishes. he did it for a laugh but he talked about his fetishes. the day after he field his papers he went to hawaii. he didn't really campaign. you really don't want larry flynt kissing babies. >> michael: you certainly don't. >> but there was a long time defense attorney in los angeles. his ballot was marijuana attorney. that was ground breaking and legitimized the issue of medical and recreational marijuana, and we see where we are today. >> michael: and didn't he run against henry waxman. >> yeah, for a very short time. >> michael: where is gray davis now? >> we sat down with gray for two hours, and it was -- i hate to say this, not a lot of news was made there. he is very reticent to talk about this. he is not trying to defend himself. he is very hesitant to talk about this. >> michael: yeah. >> he did say it was an unscheduled election, and from what we learned is it did change a lot of things that