we're not talking about mel brooks, we're talking about larry flynt going to -- >> larry flynt himself embodiment of the first amendment himself was specifically recognized by the u.s. supreme court. >> that's exactly right. and i will make the point that i made my whole life, i'll make it again tonight. people have a legal right to insult my relijgion or somebody else's, they don't have a moralt to do so. people saying the only issue on the table is the right of these people to do whatever it is they want. no it isn't. freedom of speech is not an end, it's a means to an end -- >> no, it's not -- >> that's not the understanding -- >> i quote from the u.s. supreme court, in fact you know what i'm quoting to you from hustler magazine larry flynt versus jerry saw wa. the freedom to speak one's mind is not only an aspect of individual liberty and thus a good unto itself they recognize that the actual ability to speak to say these things is a good unto itself, but it's also essential to the common quest for truth and the vitality of society. >> right. and six years earlier in 1982 in new yo

but larry flynt himself admitted that he became jerry falwell's friend.free speech is a way to make people friends with each other by listening to each other. when you choose to suppress points of view, you end up with conspiracy theories and you end up with a divided nation and ultimately you end up with violence like what we saw with "charlie hebdo." that is all i've got to say. host: appreciate that. i tweet from jack who said in terms of the covers of "charlie hebdo," "may not be funny but it's protected speech." we get a report on jobs in the united states for the month of december. the labor department will have an appointment numbers in just about an hour or so. coca-cola announcing a plan to cut up to 1800 jobs. "sales of sugary drinks continue to decline as more health-conscious consumers adjust their eating and drinking." also from "usa today," "jcpenney, macy's to shut 53 stores in total after posting holiday shopping sales on the high-end of muted expectations. jcpenney and macy's head into 2015 with a focus on smaller operations. jcpenney is

in these free speech cases, very few of us would publish pornography like larry flynt who was responsibleat but that doesn't mean that other people ought not to be free to do it. so "charlie hebdo" can do as they please and mike and i will continue to work in the mainstream of american medium. and by the way, it's hard to imagine a chilling effect on american cartoonists that would be stronger than the fact that corporate media has laid off two-thirds of our cohorts over the last 15 years. >> and mike what happened on wednesday? did influence your latest drawing but not necessarily make you put the brakes but instead you did make a statement or you know through your drawing or your interpretation. >> i've done a couple of cartoons on this subject. the one that i did, the first cartoon that i did, you know you sit all day and you try and come up with the best thing that you can do. and so right at the last minute i did this cartoon. this is based on a famous de la c croix painting. i had recently been to the louvre and it sparked something. this is my hope for france that they will be able