we turn now to the governor of maryland, larry hogan. or hogan, thank you very much for being with us. as we have been reporting, this delta variant is rising across the country. we saw in your state of maryland hospitalizations are up something like triple what they were a month ago. what are you seeing? gov. hogan: well, so, we're a little bit luckier than most of the rest of the country, because we're one of the most vaccinated states in america. and we have vaccinated 78% of the people in our state, and nearly 94% of all of our seniors. so, we were down to almost no cases and no hospitalizations, and it's gone up. we're concerned about it, but we're much lower than just about any other state. this delta variant is of great concern to us, though. it's much more contagious. it potentially causes more serious illness. but, right now, we're -- our big focus is just continuing to vaccinate those last few marylanders, because, right now, nearly 100% of all of our hospitalizations and deaths are people who are not vaccinated. judy: you are d

we will talk to republican larry hogan and dr. dr. scott gottlieb. it is all just ahead on "face the nation." ♪ >> garrett: good morning, and welcome to "face the nation." we begin with the storm threatening the east coast. henri has been downgraded to tropical storm status, but that doesn't necessarily mean the threat is any less severe. jeff berardelli is on long island, and, jeff, what are you seeing? >> yeah, major, this is the worst it has been. we've been seeing gusts 55, 60 mile-an-hour. things are getting worse. but the core of the storm has missed us to the northeast. take a look behind me. pounding surf. we've seen swells 10 to 15 feet, and now we have this sideways rain running right towards us. the storm is located near block island, near the coast of rhode island to connecticut, where the worst is likely to be. and we'll see about five feet of storm surge as the storm makes its way on shore, and couple that with a full moon, and that makes it worse. wind gusts up to around 80 miles per hour, and that means we're liking to see some power

this is marilyn governor larry hogan on the states willingness to accept refugees. vernor hogan: the chaotic scene out of afghanistan over the last several days with innocent civilians running for their lives in fear of the taliban is the result of a rushed and irresponsible withdrawal. many of these afghan citizens are allies and bravely risk their lives to provide support to our support staff pay we have a moral obligation to help them. these allies are eligible to receive special immigrant visas to the united states. maryland already expects to receive at least 180,000 afghan -- 180 citizens. the state office works with a network of providers to aid these interpreters and their families in becoming self-sufficient as quickly as possible. marilyn receives more of these siv's than any other state and we stand ready and willing to do even more. it is the least we can do. host: governor larry hogan. his statement earlier this week. taking your phone calls. we are asking you would you welcome afghan refugees in your state. this is tim from west virginia saying yes, of

currently maryland has a republican governor larry hogan. you think of there being another republican governor succeeding larry hogan? >> i'm very confident the democrats will win the governor's spot in maryland. we have great candidates running on the democratic nomination, the democratic nomination. whenever there is an open seat for governor, you know you're going to get a lot of interest. i'm very confident the vision i've seen from those that are running on the democratic side is what the people of maryland want and they want to see that type of progressive leadership in our state. >> maryland senator ben cardin, senator, i hope you get to bed at a decent hour. until then i'll let you get back to work on capitol hill. thanks very much. >>> coming up, persuading the unvaccinated. preaching and arguing don't really work. but a technique called motivational interviewing could help you convince others to get their shots. >>> plus, who better to explain what simone biles might be going through than someone who has been on the mat herself, ol

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this is marilyn governor larry hogan on the states willingness to accept refugees. vernor hogan: the chaotic scene out of afghanistan over the last several days with innocent civilians running for their lives in fear of the taliban is the result of a rushed and irresponsible withdrawal. many of these afghan citizens are allies and bravely risk their lives to provide support to our support staff pay we have a moral obligation to help them. these allies are eligible to receive special immigrant visas to the united states. maryland already expects to receive at least 180,000 afghan -- 180 citizens. the state office works with a network of providers to aid these interpreters and their families in becoming self-sufficient as quickly as possible. marilyn receives more of these siv's than any other state and we stand ready and willing to do even more. it is the least we can do. host: governor larry hogan. his statement earlier this week. taking your phone calls. we are asking you would you welcome afghan refugees in your state. this is tim from west virginia saying yes, of

. >> let's bring into the conversation, larry hogan. for state employees, effective september 1st, they'll be required to show proof of vaccination or adhere to strict face coverings requirementsing and covid-19 testing. governor, thanks for being with us. explain this decision. >> look, this delta variant is something that we're very, very concerned about here in our state, in spite of the fact we're one of the most vaccinated states in america and have some of the lowest metrics and virus numbers, the opposite of what you've been talking about this morning we're doing great but this variant is two to four times more contagious and potentially more serious, more dangerous, more serious illness comes from it. so we took actions to protect folks in congregate living facilities, nursing homes, prison system, kids in juvenile justice systems and the state of maryland's health facilities. 76% of our state, everybody over 18 has been vaccinated. 94% of our seniors. but this variant is pretty scary stuff and it's spreadsing like wildfire acro

if you look at the contrast between what desantis is doing -- biden has been working with larry hogan west virginia, phil scott in vermont. these are all republican governors who are doing vaccine lotteries, who are putting in appropriate-where-necessary mask mandates. how do we get schools open? that's what people want. that's what's happening in states with governors that actually care about their residents. and then you have ron desantis who cares about his political career. i think that's the easiest way to understand the difference in what's going on. >> now, dana, let me go into this. the u.s. government has already hit the debt ceiling. though republicans happily ignored the debt limit while trump was in office, now they're threatening to default on those bills. they're trying to tie upcoming legislation like the infrastructure package to this scheme. what do you think will happen next? >> do they never learn, reverend? it's not like this has never happened before. we've seen them -- ted cruz with his brinkmanship in 2013. this goes all the way back to newt gingrich's days and

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look, i live in a state, maryland, that has a republican governor, larry hogan, who has done a terrific during the pandemic. he prioritized masking early on, had mask mandates in the state for quite a while, prioritized testing. and, you know, right now maryland is averaging eight new case per 100,000 residents. florida, on the other hand, that has a republican governor that has just, you know, prohibited mask mandates in the state, has prohibited vaccine passports, has prohibited any type of lockdown throughout the state, florida has 82 cases per 100,000 residents every day. so the difference is stark. look, hospitals in florida are filling with patients, but he's painted himself into a corner. it didn't have to be this way. he needed to support mask mandates. he needs to support vaccine mandates. florida mandates vaccines for polio and rubella and measles and mumps and hepatitis and chickenpox. but yet he's prohibiting mandating it for covid. makes no sense to me. >> you know, on the other hand, though, you have new york city, and the mayor saying he's going to require proof of vaccin

maryland's larry hogan, massachusetts charlie baker, henry mcmaster, iowa's kim reynolds. it is a reminder america is a generous place, a nation of immigrants and refugees. something nativists who try to divide us often forget. it is also worth remembering that final cable september from the u.s. embassy in saigon read, in part, those who fail to learn from history are forced to repeat it. there are plenty of lessons from vietnam we have evidently not learned. let's hope that our commitment to refugees who helped our country has not been forgotten and that we honor the wisdom of iowa governor robert ray when he said, don't tell me of your concerns for human rights. show me. don't tell me how christian you are, show me. and that's your reality check. >> john avalon, thank you very much for that. >>> "new day" continues right now. ♪ >>> good morning to our viewers here in the united states and around the world. i'm john berman with brianna keilar. it is wednesday, august 25th. we begin with the stunning pace of evacuations from afghanistan. the white house just announced tha

joining us now, the republican governor of maryland, larry hogan. for joining us. you just announced these new vaccine protocols for some state employees. who do these new rules apply to, and why did you select these specific groups? >> well, we're very concerned about this delta variant which is, you know, two to four times more contagious and potentially causes more severe disease, and we're doing great in our state because we're one of the most vaccinated states, but we're concerned about congregate facilities, so people that work in our -- in our health department, public facilities, who work in the department of juvenile services and our department of corrections and -- and in our veterans homes and in our -- in the department of veterans affairs, so places where we have vulnerable populations that are exposed and we have some workers, most of our state workers have done the right thing and gotten vaccinated, but -- but in some of those places we want to make sure that those folks who are on the front lines, who have the ability to impact and i

. >> look, political fights are just that and they may benefit each of these politicians, larry hogan, ron desantis and joe biden but what they don't do is get us any closer to getting us out of this pandemic. arlet is traveling with the president "outfront" in wilmington, delaware. i know you've been talking to white house officials about this fight today. what are they telling you? >> reporter: well, kate, white house officials aren't exactly outlining the next steps in the strategy of the war of words between the white house and ron desantis. they demonstrated a willingness this week to call out those republican governors like desantis who they believe are making decisions that fly in the face of public health guidance. president biden really set the tone for that early in the week when he specifically responding to the desantis and texas governor greg abbott saying that governors who won't implement mask or vaccine requirements should just move out of the way and that is something that you really heard from white house officials, as well, this week as you heard in that sound from

maryland republican governor larry hogan is urging baltimore ravens quarterback lamar jackson to be vaccinatedradio audience jackson cannot take the chance as new nfl rules threaten forefits for teams that have to cancel games over positive tests by unvaccinated players. jackson had tested positive twice. he has refused to say whether he has since been vaccinated. and you can find nearby vaccine locations by going to vaccines.gov. there is growing concern tonight about what back-to-school should look like amid the coronavirus resurgence. today, we heard from the president's education secretaries about vaccines and masks. chief washington correspondent mike emanuel has details this evening. >> hello, everyone. >> hi! >> in a baltimore public school, education secretary that gel cardona spelled out the return to school for a new academic year. noting the fight against covid is not over yet? we are now experiencing increase of delta variant this uptick is concerning. the difference this year is that we can control the virus. >> cardona encouraged parents to vaccinate their children age 12 and old

larry hogan has done a terrific job. maryland was one of the first states to mask up and right now has one of the lowest covid positivity rates in the united states. so look, i think that people are starting to get the message as they see their hospitals in their towns start to fill and as they start to see people they know get sick and in some instances die. we're sort of moving very slowly in the right direction but we're in need of better leadership in places like texas and florida. >> you know, you say you need to trust the doctors but david, senator rand paul also a doctor is railing against the cdc's guide guidance on masks. take a listen. >> president biden, we will not accept your agency's mandates or reported moves towards a lockdown. no one should follow the cdc's anti science mask mandates. >> no one should follow the cdc's anti science mask mandates? i mean, we're also at this point where you have to wonder how do we come back from this? >> well, dr. lrand paul is an ee doctor. he has no insight into virology

some are taking a strong stance against the virus, like maryland's governor larry hogan. >> i don't care what misinformation or conspiracy theories that you have heard. you are the ones threatening the freedoms of all the rest of us. it may be only a matter of time until you do get covid-19. so please, just get the damn vaccine. >> an associate professor at harvard thinks the holdouts will need more than a push. professor joe allen writes in a new column, "we have hit a wall with this voluntary approach. the only way out of our covid-19 morass is to mandate vaccines, make the burden of being unvaccinated so high that people comply." wole take on the mandate debate in just a moment. but first to the science and our cnn medical analyst dr. leana wen. dr. wen, congratulations on your best-seller. nice to see you again. you heard me say that last week we had an 11% gain in vacs nai vaccinations. that's good news. but there's some bad news as well. is your glass half full or half empty? >> it's a lot more than half empty. we are seeing surges once again in this country. our infection rates ar

the state's governor announced thursday, mariner governor -- marilyn governor larry hogan says this will apply to workers that are in geithner get virginias -- congregated working in virginia. it will affect about 122 thousand employees in the commonwealth. this tweet from this morning about mandates in california. california mandates coronavirus vaccine for all health care workers affecting more than 2 million people in that state. that is from the apv. apd also noting governor phil murphy from new jersey will announce masks ill be required in new jersey schools for k-12 students this fall. that news out yesterday and that announcement yesterday. this is norman in richmond, virginia. democrat caller:. good morning. caller:good morning. -- democrat, good morning. caller: good morning. i think the most import and item this week was the news that several republican-controlled legislatures in various states are enacting laws that will enable the

we heard the president do this yesterday of larry hogan of maryland, asa hutchinson of arkansas, markine of ohio who they say have been doing the right thing in terms of their approach to the covid pandemic. when you add these mask mandate prohibitions that some governors are trying to impose with what we are already seeing, which is lower vaccination rates in a lot of these southern republican-leaning states, it really poses a challenge to the white house that they're really having a hard time confronting. >> all right. mike memoli reporting from delaware. mike, thank you so much. >>> joining me now is msnbc medical contributor dr. blackstock, the founder and ceo of advancing health equity. dr. blackstock, always good to have you on. you know, dr. fauci warned this week a more severe covid variant could emerge as the average number of daily cases now reaches 100,000 a day. he said things are going to get worse. so, dr. blackstock, we're starting to hear about a new variant, the lambda variant. how worried should we be about the threat of these new potentially worse variants? >> well,

the states governors announced on thursday, marilyn governor larry hogan said that the policy will applyemployees in congress and facilities in virginia. state workers who are not vaccinated will be tested for covid-19 every single week under the new policy. it will affect about 122,000 employees in the commonwealth. this tweet from this morning about mandates in california. california mandates coronavirus vaccine for all healthcare workers affecting more than 2 million people in that state. also noting that governor murphy of new jersey is going to announce masks will be required in new jersey schools for k-12 students this fall. that news coming out yesterday and that announcement coming out yesterday. this is norman in virginia. democrat. announcer: -- good morning. caller: good morning. the most important news item this week was the news that several republican-controlled legislatures in various states are enacting laws that will enable the legislature or the governor to overturn the results of an election. it is totally antidemocratic. i worry that, you read the article, you realize