. >> at maryland governing -- governor larry hogan gave his address after serving eight years in office peered the governor referenced president march washington's own feral address and partisan politics damaging u.s. democracy. wes moore will be sworn in on january 18 becoming the states were -- first black governor. >> my fellow marylanders. this is the final time that i will have the privilege of addressing the people of this great state as your governor. 240 years ago, right here in this senate chamber, general george washington relinquished command of the continental forces aired fulfilling what he called an indispensable duty to formally hand over power. and commending the interests of our dearest country to the protection of almighty god. it was here in this chamber that the revolutionary war ended. with the ratification of the treaty of paris. making this statehouse our nation's first peacetime capitol. next week, we will add another important chapter to our state's history. with the inauguration of maryland's first black governor. and to the first indian american lieutenant gov

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. >> outgoing maryland governor larry hogan gave his farewell address from the capitol in an applet, referenced president george washington's own farewell address and warned about partisan politics damaging us democracy. democratic governor elect was more will become the state's first black governor. this is about 10 minutes. >> this is the final time that i will have the privilege of addressing the people of this great state as your governor. 240 years ago, right here in this old senate chamber, of our historic statehouse, general george washington relinquished command of the continental forces, fulfilling what he called an indispensable duty to formally hand over power and commending the interests of our dearest country to the protection of almighty god. it was here in this very chamber that the revolutionary war ended with the ratification of the treaty of paris, making this very statehouse our nation's first peacetime capital. next week, we will add yet another important chapter to our state's history with the inauguration of maryland's first black governor and first indian-ameri

look, i'll write in another republican, that's what larry hogan has done twice, will you say i'm not going to spot him no matter what? >> i want to see what the alternatives are. it's premature, jonathan, to what might happen in 2024, that issue will come up but i want to see everything i can do to make sure that there's the alternative and that donald trump is not the nominee of the party, that's the first thing. >> let me ask you, there's been talk that the republican national committee may say to be in a presidential debate for 2024, to even be on the stage, you must commit to supporting the eventual nominee, do you think that would be a mistake? it would tie everyone on that stage to trump if he wins? >> well, i think it would be a mistake to do that, you know there's, i mean, i think it's obvious that you got a divided party in a sense you have a base of loyal trump supporters but you got what to me is even a larger majority of those who say we want to go a different direction so let's not put up obstacles to, one, unifying the party, but secondly, given every chance that anothe

. >>> joining me now to discuss is outgoing republican governor larry hogan of maryland. today is his last full day on the job. governor, good to see you. >> thank you for having me, jake. >> i want to start with this horrible story out of new mexico, trepublican candidate pushed election lies, accused of orchestrating shootings at homes of other candidates, innocent until proven guilty, but four lawmakers targeted violently, is this part of a larger problem, do you think? >> it sure sounds like it is. i mean, it is the inevitable end result of what has been years and years of toxic, angry, divisive politics i've been kind of talking about and expressing concern over for quite some time. i don't know the details of the case, but obviously everybody is innocent until proven guilty, but the fact that we get to the point in america where these kinds of things are even, you know, potentially possible, it just doesn't make sense. we have got to do something about the broken politics. >> one of the lawmakers whose home was shot at told cnn in a statement, we have seen far too m

three governors, former governors, governor larry hogan, paris glendening, martin o'malley. as charles said, numerous members of congress, county officials, the howard county executive, the baltimore county executive. here is the new governor and the state's new first lady. [applause] >> the county executive will be the mc for the outdoor ceremonies. what a beautiful day. if we hadn't referenced this in the past, gubernatorial inauguration days in mid-january have brought mid-january weather. this is mid 50's and sunny, a beautiful day to be outside. >> i have frozen on many of those occasions, including the last one with larry hogan where in the middle of the process, we had a snow, i don't know what you would call it but this today is one of those. it is apropos that his kids are there. we haven't had kids in the governors mansion in years. as you said earlier, they struck a deal. they will get a puppy. i don't know what the name of the puppy will be, but let's put it this way. hurry up and get that dog in that house. >> there will be a lot of planning. mr. moore is a vete

governor larry hogan, governor martin o'malley. and as charles said, numerous members of congress, county officials, i saw the howard county executive, the baltimore county executive and here is your new governor wes moore in the first lady dawn moore. [applause] >> stuart pittman will be the emcee for the outdoor ceremony. what a beautiful day today. this is mid 50's and sunny and a beautiful day to be outside. charles: during the last one with larry hogan in the middle that process but this today is one of those. it is apropos that his two kids are there. we have not had kids in the governor's mansion in years. as you said earlier, they struck a deal. we are going to get a puppy. i don't know what the name of the puppy or what kind of puppy but let's put it this way, they better hurry up and get the dog in the house. >> i'm sure there's going to be a lot of planning. he leaves little to chance. he is a planner in the long-term and short-term. we have not talked about his political future but this is day one of his career as an el

labels" as national co-chair with former senator joseph lieberman, and former maryland governor larry hogani'm happy to serve as the co-chair of no labels. host: do you think the political divide in the country has made that racial divide worse in the last few years? guest: absolutely. i think the political divide feeds the racial divide and the economic divide, feeds the social divide. there are so many divides in our nation, bill, but one of the things that dr. martin luther king, jr. preached was the love for our community where we start having love and mutual respect for one another. you need that now. host: i mentioned you began your career in 1963 as dr. king's statewide youth coordinator for the leadership conference. , north carolina the southern christian leadership conference. how old were you and you started that position? guest: in 1963, i was 14 and i was learning how to drive. i was driving a car at 14, and 1963 is the year that dr. king gave his famous "i have a dream" speech in august of 1963. the important thing about what we learn from those years, bill, one year later in

hey, by the end of this thing, the only person that might run for president is larry hogan or something. i think having people in the national security apparatus trying to shape the presidential field is not a good thing regardless of your political persuasion. i don't think that mike pence did anything wrong here. donald trump made that point as well. >> sean: john -- >> remember when adam schiff said he's got more than circumstantial evidence? we found it. it was mcgonigal working with the russians for goodness sake. >> sean: you forgot the prank call that adam schiff took and the guy in a russian accept said that we have compromising material on donald trump. what's the nature of the compromise? pictures of naked trump. has vladimir seen the pictures? of course. adam schiff was colluding with somebody that he thought was a russian to benefit the democrats. anyway, he doesn't belong on the committee. neither does swalwell. last question. will you come to an agreement on the debt ceiling issue? will all 222 republicans unite? matt gaetz? >> we will. we should fight for work requirement

john mccain and larry hogan garland and wray get to pick the next president basically.n choose to biden or trump or both or one or the other. come on, this is ridiculous. i thought we got to pick the president. i wonder how kamala is reacting to all of this? [laughter] >> jesse: she knows she has got nothing to hide. no one even lets her look at classified documents. let's turn it over to jonathan hurley george washington university law professor and fox news contributor. all right. professor hurley -- turley, i'm thinking of herr. the new special counsel. where do you think this thing goes? is this going to be bad for joe biden or is this just going to get covered up like hillary clinton's thing did? >> well, the most interesting aspect about today is that the white house repeated almost mantra like this inadvertence defense. they have legally latched on to this and said this was an inadvertent misplacement of these documents. the problem is that the facts don't really support that because we -- the assumption is that all of these documents were taken from the executiv

governor kasich but also congressman fred upton, who is retiring, or departing maryland governor larry hogany, if we're looking at all the issues you laid out, there are significant political hurdles ahead for whoever is the speaker, not the most attractive position to sign up for, even from the outside. >> no, it will be difficult for any person that they nominate. i think the next two years in this country, we're seeing actually a second wave of insurrection. most of those in the 20, the gang of 20, were actually election deniers. they are the ones who fought the space lasers and other exotic activity taking place, as release base lasers we're altering the vote. they were worried about a sham paper being doctored so that they would only vote for biden, not the other. it's just crazy. but being crazy now is getting to the center of the party, and those people are going to be dictating the terms. that's what they are going to weaken mccarthy or whoever they pick will have very weak powers. that means they will have more not to do things in a positive way but to obstruct and to frustrate the

. >> former republican governor larry hogan made the same move in office as a way to address labor shortagesied non-degree candidates. let's bring in byron ogeste. he's the ceo and co-founder of opportunity at work. so good to see you this morning. what are the advantages of addressing the worker shortage this way, broadening the pool of applicants, just opening the flood gates to more people to apply for jobs? >> well, there are so many advantages and thank you for having me on this morning. when you think about the united states labor force, there are 70 million americans who do not have bachelor's degrees but who are stars, skilled through alternative routes. what are alternative routes? they might have gone to community college, military service. there are a plethora of all sorts of training programs where you can gain very specific skills, tech skills, but most of all they gained skills on the job. when you do work in a call center or customer support, for example, you build so many of the skills you need for let's say a sales job that might be open. so there are so many opportunities t

by the way, we're going to pursue this more with maryland governor larry hogan himself expressing potential interest in a 2024 run. add him to a long list that could include up to a dozen prominent republicans. he's my special guest tomorrow to explore this. he's saying governor desantis in florida a number of times. an interview you might want to check out. it's something passing along, i want to relay as to the ongoing war in ukraine. the president says he will not provide f-16 jets to ukraine as you recall. this was coming up after this commitment to provide tanks to ukraine that we would up the ante and provide f-16 jets. that would be alarming as far as the russians are concerned. it does not appear to be happening. the president will not provide the jets. we'll look at the fallout of this in a little bit. meantime, looking at this fallout for request for documents and who gets watch. hillary vaughn is following that. hillary? >> they're working on getting a briefing for senators, but a briefing may not be enough. some senators want to see the classified documents that were found in pr

but when it comes to maryland, are you taking any lessons from larry hogan, even though he is across aisle? >> i appreciate the fact that the governor -- he was very against the maga movement from its inception for years. he's been calling the maga movement -- calling it dangerous, which it is. and i thank him, i thank him for that. the thing i also know is our state needs to move fast, our state needs to be bold. i think the state of maryland is ready to do big things again, like creating a service year option for every single high school graduate which we're going to get done in this legislative session. i'm thankful in the fact that governor hogan has ensured we'll have an orderly and smooth transition on january 18th. i'm ready to get to work on january 19th. >> i know you haven't been sworn in as governor next. your name is out there as a potential presidential contender some day, not saying tomorrow, some day. would you be interested in that? >> i'm very excited to make this maryland -- i'm not interested. i'm very excited for president biden to run for re-election. we're going

she's a frequent collaborator of the current governor larry hogan. miss bachman is a former director of artistic property exhibits and outreach as well as a curator of artistic property at the maryland state archives. next we also have melissa nolan who is the associate curator of decorative arts at the white house just across the street. where she has served since 2003 in the presidency of george w bush. miss nolan previously held curatorial post at george washington's mount vernon the winterthur museum in delaware and the strong museum of rochester new york. she holds a master of arts degree from the winterthur program in early american culture at the university of delaware as well as a bachelor's degree from smith college. and last but not least we have susan shell work an executive director the executive director of historic preservation and collections and the robert h smith senior curator at george washington's mount vernon where she directs the architectural preservation furnishing and interpretation. of george and martha washington's home the

she's a frequent collaborator of the current governor larry hogan. miss bachman is a former director of artistic property exhibits and outreach as well as a curator of artistic property at the maryland state archives. next we also have melissa nolan who is the associate curator of decorative arts at the white house just across the street. where she has served since 2003 in the presidency of george w bush. miss nolan previously held curatorial post at george washington's mount vernon the winterthur museum in delaware and the strong museum of rochester new york. she holds a master of arts degree from the winterthur program in early american culture at the university of delaware as well as a bachelor's degree from smith college. and last but not least we have susan shell work an executive director the executive director of historic preservation and collections and the robert h smith senior curator at george washington's mount vernon where she directs the architectural preservation furnishing and interpretation. of george and martha washington's home the

during the break we will show you the comments of the outgoing governor of maryland, larry hogan, whoave his farewell address in the historic state capitol in the senate chamber. [video clip] >> in his farewell address when he completed his second term, president washington warned americans that if left unchecked partisanship would foster a spirit of revenge and lead to the ruins of liberty. he said that the common and continual mist shifts of the spirit -- mischiefs of the spirit of party is sufficient to make it the interest and the duty of a wise people to discourage and restrain it. he was right. which is why i believe that more leaders in maryland and across america must stand against the extremes and with the majority of the people. we cannot let the fringes and factions get in the way of getting things done and solving serious problems. in maryland, we have proven that this is still possible. our story should be a beacon of hope for the nation, which seems more bitterly divided they had ever. america truly is at a critical turning point, one in which the fate of our democracy c

he succeeded larry hogan after he left office. about that sort of amazing -- it is a tough time for democracy and so we should celebrate transitions that go as well as the larry hogan/moore transition, but in annapolis, he went to a dock there are slaves were thought to have arrived, slaves regularly arrived in annapolis. and a friend of mine who is the anne arundel county executive was emcee for the inaugural because stewart's family held slaves. so this is an amazing story of the first black governor being elected, having the ceremony hosted by descendants of slave holders. and where he returned his commission to say i'll be a civilian after the revolutionary war, his speech is thought to be one of the most four important documents in the american cannon because it says we won't have a kill or monarchy, we'll be ruled by civilians. so pretty -- as wes moore said, is this not about the past, but a celebration of the future. so good day for democracy. >> and he also had his hand on a bible that belonged to frederick douglass. >> t