a analysts, larry joseph says there's no accountability in washington over the failure to find anything substantial to justify the russia. allegations is remarkable that the amount of psychological projection that's going on here. and what i mean by that. ready is that the united states accuses russia of what the united states is doing. and in fact, russia was not interfering or meddling in the u. s. election. it was the washington d. c. establishment. the democratic party has no credibility and it has become again, it's just, it's good at taking care of its own and making sure everybody who plays with them gets rewarded. they get a pay off. you and the republicans have the loss, was adaptive to us, and that was, that's the speaks of it. there are still some principal people within the republican party and you're seeing some of them today. we're opposing the election of drug. kevin mccarthy is the speaker of the house. so this is this concept that accountability. it needs to take place, but that's the problem with washington. there is no accountability for miss deeds because you've hear

that is why i joined "no labels" as national co-chair with former senator joseph lieberman, and former maryland governor larryogan. i'm happy to serve as the co-chair of no labels. host: do you think the political divide in the country has made that racial divide worse in the last few years? guest: absolutely. i think the political divide feeds the racial divide and the economic divide, feeds the social divide. there are so many divides in our nation, bill, but one of the things that dr. martin luther king, jr. preached was the love for our community where we start having love and mutual respect for one another. you need that now. host: i mentioned you began your career in 1963 as dr. king's statewide youth coordinator for the leadership conference. , north carolina the southern christian leadership conference. how old were you and you started that position? guest: in 1963, i was 14 and i was learning how to drive. i was driving a car at 14, and 1963 is the year that dr. king gave his famous "i have a dream" speech in august of 1963. the important thing about what we learn from those years, bill, one year lat