what -- i also want to say that i personally spoke to larry kessler, and larry kessler does not remember any phone call with anyone from bloom room authorizing him. at the director's hearing -- >> no, and i appreciate that. i don't think that is as concerning to me as the fact -- >> and i agree with you as far as -- >> and then, the last question, going back to the permits for on-site consumption. now, the application if -- if a facility is grandfathered, do they have to go through all of these controls, designated room, etc., or they're grandfathered into their current facility? >> they are grandfathered into their current facility, and those were the midispensaries that are explicitly designated during the land use hearing for consumption. so every place you saw today, they checked off yes, they want to. yes, they want to. there were those that said they wanted to, and the planning commission said no. there were those that wanted to, based on how far they were from the schools and all that, so those did not have to. >> thank you. >> i have a question. so going back to my earlier line,