entirety joining us now is founder and thirty five year executive director of gun owners of america larry pratt larry thank you so much for being with us tonight. so we ron paul the congressman ron paul from texas has come out and specifically said that gun owners of america is the only no compromise gun lobby in washington what does that say about the n.r.a. will he didn't say anything. there and of you know the different flows that. he. generally. if you. were within the system. he actually is in need you will get in. our view is that. you and citizen. we really accept a legitimate seal what is not legitimate gun control of the federal level is a little outside the constitution so what's to compromise on. there's nothing to fear that they have stopped so many of our liberties and it's turned we articulate and you can take him back is it any other areas of the world or thank you constitution you know for the americans for tax reform grover norquist they have the taxpayer protections place do you think you could have some version of that for politicians for firearms to make so that before anyon

pratt had an alibi. he names the men that he thinks actually did commit the murder. >> the two people who we think are the real killers of mrs. olson are larry hatter and herb et cetera swilly who were fringe members. they would attend black panther party affairs when it suited their own purposes. >> hatter and swilly are both dead. these declarations from four men who grew up in south la with swilly and hatter claim that the two men told them they had done the tennis court robbery and murder. we are not revealing the names of these men to protect their identities. this declaration is from one of the four. he was actually arrested for the tennis court murder but then released, long before pratt was charged. the man claims he told the lapd detectives that hatter and swilly said "they had been at the tennis court" and described a man and woman on the tennis court shaking in fear and crying just before they were shot.." the declaration goes on to say that detectives: "told me not to discuss this with anyone if i knew what was good for me.." these are police composite sketches of the two killers based on descriptions from the dead woman's wounde