with me now is larry sabato, the director of the center of politics at the university of virginia. larry, thanks so much for joining us. what is president jimmy carter's legacy, in your view? and you see pieces of his work in the democratic party today? >> well, absolutely. he tried to move the party more toward the center, and he succeeded in 1976, which is one way he won a relatively narrow victory over the incumbent president, gerald ford. uh, of course, what happens is when you do that, there's a counter revolution within the democratic party, which i think democrats are going to experience again. uh, now, when you move it to the center, the left gets upset. >> in carter's case, it was senator ted kennedy from massachusetts who challenged him in the primaries and was one reason, one of several, uh, as to why jimmy carter was not reelected. >> but, wolf, to me, the important point is jimmy carter is often called the best ex president. that is, his ex presidency was terrific. >> it was much better than his presidency. >> well, that's half right. he had a terrific presidency. he al

let's discuss now with the director of the university of virginia center for politics, larry sabato. y, that is a big story that this report may actually be made public despite some of the concerns that were expressed by our previous guest, congressman tim burchett of tennessee. i don't i don't think all of the ethics reports on every congressman from here to to timbuktu is going to be released, but this one, it looks like will be. what is your reaction to that? >> well, i believe in transparency and i think probably it's a good thing, although we'd all say it's much less important than it would have been had he still been the nominee for attorney general, which is a very powerful post. he's not even in congress. he's going to be host of a tv show on some other network. you know, that's fine, but i don't think it's i think it will make for interesting reading, but the readership will be limited and what do you make of president elect trump's continued attacks on members of the january 6th committee? >> he's going after liz cheney now saying on truth social that cheney could be in a lo

well, earlier i spoke with larry sabato the director of the university of virginia center for politics, on the political implications of biden's decision. >> well for joe biden, he's 82, and i don't think he's going to be running for anything else. that's just my guess. so for him, the political implications are zero for the democratic party, though, it's not very helpful. now, i think we can all see the reasons why this father would pardon this son. having said that though, he's created a situation where he and also his wife said repeatedly that a pardon would not be issued for hunter, and yet that's precisely what's happened. no one's shocked, but it does contradict what he said it would have been politically unwise for him to indicate prior to the election that such a pardon would be forthcoming for for democrats. it makes it easier for trump to explain away any of probably the many pardons that he has in mind when he takes office. january 20th, including many of the insurrectionists from january six, 2021. >> and so republicans are, of course already responding to this. and tom cot

larry sabato is the director of the university of virginia's center for politics. he joins me now from charlottesville. always good to have you with us. >> thank you. >> rosemary so let's start with the breaking news on president joe biden planning to fully and unconditionally pardon his son hunter, before leaving office despite previously saying he would not do this. what are the political implications of this? pardon? do you think? >> well, for joe biden, he's 82 and i don't think he's going to be running for anything else. that's just my guess. so for him, the political implications are zero for the democratic party though, it's not very helpful. now, i think we can all see the reasons why this father would pardon this son. having said that, though he's created a situation where he and also his wife said repeatedly that a pardon would not be issued for hunter and yet that's precisely what's happened. no one's shocked, but it does contradict what he said it would have been politically unwise for him to indicate prior to the election that such a pardon would be fo

larry sabato, for us, thank you so much. >> thank you very much, paula. >> now, as you might have guessedeady, washington is going to be a very busy city in the coming weeks. even busier now, of course, with the former president expected to lie in state at the capitol. a state funeral for carter will be the third distinct national event requiring special security, the other two being the certification of election results and the inauguration of donald trump. and in just a few days, the house and senate will meet to swear in new members and elect a new speaker of the house. okay, just ahead for us here on cnn, desperate for news about their loved ones, some relatives of the 179 people killed in sunday's south korea plane crash are camping out at the airport where it happened. >> they say things take time and effort, but it's worth the wait. i can tell some stories. >> i'm so excited. >> i don't believe twitter brought the world together and the world was not ready to see itself. >> you read the comments. yeah, i might recommend that you don't. yeah, that's how i get by. >> you never backed

joining us now to discuss the director of the university of virginia center for politics, larry sabato, and cnn global economic analyst rana foroohar. she's also a columnist and associate editor at the financial times.' hearing trump backing off of all of those claims that we saw here that this is going to be, quote, very hard? >> well, look, jim, i never bought the campaign slogans. i mean, inflation is complicated. it's global. it's generally not something that presidents can do a lot about, particularly in the short term. this is a broad economic phenomenon. it's been happening for years. it's about supply chains. it's about the pandemic. it's about some of the fiscal spending that's been going on, which, by the way, if trump actually sticks to his own budget projections, debt and deficit would go up, which would be another reason, potentially for inflationary pressures. so i think he's right this time around. and what he's saying post-election, it is going to be hard. >> yeah. but you know, larry, the conversation during the campaign is that one of the reasons and after the electio

. >> all right, larry sabato, we will look ahead to 2025 together. thanks so much for being here.appreciate it. >> thank you. jessica. >> still ahead the new year now just a few days away, many of you may be planning to make some resolutions. we're going to run the numbers on the most popular resolutions and how many people follow through with them. you're in the cnn ne the most exciting time in the worl joyful moments and some really difficult moments. >> you only come across an artist like luther vandross once in a lifetime. >> luther. never too much new year's day on. we're society in crisis. but what if we turned our disagreements into discussions, conflicts into opportunities? >> what if we acted a bit more simple? you see, civility can sweeten even the most bitter conversations. and it. sherm, we know people and businesses work best when we choose civility. so join me. join me in starting 1 million civil conversations. because civility is a language we can all understand. >> as a cardiologist, when i put my patients on a statin to reduce cholesterol, i also tell them it can