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i think the tipping point was back in the early 90's with "the larry sanders show." [applause] what gary shandling did is he said to the world, you can do something with a truly original voice and you can differentiate yourself from everything else in the media. i think what gary did was he opened the door to a lot of other auteurs who saw the attention he got in the creative community. people were watching what he was doing on hbo and saying, wow. i can try something like that. i think he opened the door to what became the modern hbo. >> why did it take so long for us to get there? >> in fairness, the model of television and hbo are very different. television, they are selling advertising. that is the way they measure success and that is the business model that informs their decision-making. our model is we are selling a brand. what we are trying to do every day is elevate that brand and we believe if we elevate the brand and create more addicts across a wide range of demographics, we will serve our brand and we will grow our business and build our model all over th

sanders woodwind. -- would win. my second choice would be joe biden. host: how old are you? caller: 62. host: what do you do for a living? caller: i do surveys. larrym north carolina. independent caller. caller: i just have one thing to say about hillary. i would support her and everything but she is just like any other -- they are all lawyers. look at your courthouse, it's the worst run place around. weon't understand why and they get back out of office and what about the american people. host: this cnn cohost of headline --th the terry from indiana. democratic caller. caller: good morning. i have two things to say. president obama is the chief. they need to give him the respect of him being president. the other thing is, i would like to see a cartoon with the ceos of the big companies as puppet masters and the republican party as the puppets. columnrom tom friedman's , his interview with president he talks about iraq, putin and israel. --writes having a chance to tour the horizon with him last friday afternoon, it is clear that the president has a take on the and he has feisty answers for all of the foreign-policy critics. raymond in new york. in