larry sanders?t is, he's the tv alter ego of comedian already chandelier, gary channeling, wanted to do is show that deconstructed the kind of show that the tonight show was just pretend like you're talking to me to wear off the air of cathartic because in the world of valerio, sandra show if there was a network but your budget, is that what you want me to do? so it became this weird funhouse mirrors thing where you could use stuff from your misery, from your career as fodder. >> i don't take this as a threat, but i killed a man like you and korea hand-to-hand my boy doesn't want to do anymore commercials. >> larry sanders to me was aside from being a brilliant television show, didn't you say hey, now it was my everyday life i'm here for three good reasons. >> last show, degrading will be coming out him pham the larry sanders show was very unique in that it was very deadpan and really groundbreaking in its day. i think it made people really go. that's the level of work you may be able to do on a cab

larry, thank you so much. >>> joining us now, former chief spokesperson for vice president harris and co-host of "the weekend" on msnbc, simone sanders-townsend. >> i love larry. he's lovely. as you were talking to him, i was very enthralled in the conversation. >> you were taking notes. >> because donald trump, when he posts on the social media site, it now double posts to twitter, and i'm young, but i'm also too old to change my ways. about an hour ago, he said, when i win, those people that cheated will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. long-term prison sentences, he wrote that. then he said, unscrupulous behavior will be prosecuted at levels never before seen. that is what we're talking about here. so i'm of the belief that, frankly, i think the race is close for two reasons. one, because chief among them, there are people like donald trump, they want what he is offing, despite -- >> they want authoritarianism? >> i don't think they're going to give that. they think when the economy was good. so i think they like what he's talking about, and you hear that from voters on the trail. i also think this race is close bec

sanders campaigning for her in wisconsin today. let's welcome back to the show american majority ceo ned ryan. is this going to attract the undecided voters and independents? larry kudlow just said how does this cause results somewhat results does this bring? what results do identity politics bring? >> well, i think they are getting extremely nervous about the progressive vote in wisconsin, liz. that's why you're sending up bernie sanders and aoc and it revolving around the fact that jill stein, despite democrats attempts to remove her from the ballot succeeded in staying on the ballot this year, but let me run some numbers for you, liz. in 2016 jill stein made the ballot. she got 3 1,000 votes in a state, wisconsin, that trump only won by 23,000 votes. fast forward to 2020. they successfully litigated to get her off the ballot biden only won the state by 20,000 votes. fast forward to 2024. she made the ballot again. they were unsuccessful in getting her off. they are afraid those 30 some thousand votes she got in 2016 might go her way in 2024 that be devastating to kamala harris. liz: that's really important what you said because you see , you know, how trump w