i was at harvard and larry somers was a professor at harvard, so i was like, hey, professor somers, good to see you. i read your articles and they were great. what are you doing now? oh, no, i said, you're in treasury, right? and he said, i'm the deputy secretary. and i'm like, good for you! and i got home and i talked to my boss and i'm like, i met larry somers. he's something like the deputy secretary. and he said, oh, my god, do you know what the deputy secretary is? and i said, no. he said, that's number two in the department. and i was like, i'm so sorry. i didn't get that i was insulting him because i had no idea that deputy secretary was like number two. that was embarrassing. >> at one point i was reading a best-selling book and it had a very interesting, little story in it that was irresistable and it was about john philip souza and his name was actually so. that because of his love for the united states, he added the usa. well, it wasn't true. it was in a best-selling book, but the first person who sees it is the fact-checker. there was no truth to this story. >> you have to li