larry wilson. i'm thinking as a product of this summit that we should come up with a statement of the reality of science as we see it today. we all agree that certain things really happening. we ought to state the obvious. a statement from this summit signed on to by the participants here and if we can do that along with some of the back up issues about the action plans and stuff like that we can probably put out a product with a value of national interest. >> i think we're not going to try to take action today, but in the follow up that we'll be circulating and there will be on going dialogue through that mechanism and those are things we can consider, because i think everyone feels a lot of need to get out with some of the things we've formed consensus about over the past day. let me go back to a panelist now. >> well a couple of thoughts in terms of public engagement. my mind goes to the whole need for a sustained marketing strategy. this is a big, long-term issue. we all talk about it in differ

people involved in what was called the albany movement, and recalled will's own family and later larry wilson, excuse me, larry west, his family, these were black guys who played in that period whose family, whose mothers understood if you can integrate that football team and not have white sands on one side and black on the others in this big stadium we have come if you can integrate that team then you could further the integration in this community. >> was there a lot of pushback or attention from the community when grady played on the first football game? >> there was pushback from his own teammates and then i recorded the interviews in this book and they later regretted that and if a leader in the same season realized that grady caldwell was a fellow a strong character and they went on to recognize that, so there was an early push and resistance colleges, and whole-bean cook, the coach and period who just recently passed away, made the point the cafeteria on can't he would sit by him and all the other white players would not accept him early on but the coach did that and the other thing t

larry has highlights in a moment. but other giants news we want to get to first. giants closer wilson yet another thing on the buckest list. he was recently an answer in "the new york times"crossword puzzle. he was also caught the eye of on line book makers. betting web site films taking action on mainly league and whether he will shave his trademark beard. site offering odds that he will shave the beard. >> now count tim among the after let's with their own logo o. check this out. team says tim will use this graphic for marketing his image. how about that? so that got us thinking. if already ri was to create a logo to pro let his image. what would it be. >> we thought it would be perfect. >> that's a photo we took of him in the sports department. >> the only thing missing is the bench and my maybe there is one in there. my producer doing my work for me. illusion that everybody has around here. very nice. him if very, very nice. f. >> you are welcome. >> yes. pl i do have serious business here to take care of. scare for the giants last night but all is well. barry involved in car acci

there's also great individuals, charlie wilson, great movie, but also larry presler, a little known senator who's bill cut off military assistance to pakistan. when we cut off, we told the pakistanis we were not going to deliver 30 some odd f-16 aircrafts they had ordered and paid for, we weren't going to give them their money back, and we were going to charge them back. larry presler is not well known in america, every pakistani knows who he is. america is a fair weather friend. they see us as a tissue. you use it and you throw it away. i'll leave your imagination to the other things they come uphe. it was born in pakistanw agains. don't get me wrong, i think what we did in the 1980s was the right thing. we changed history. we brought down an evil empire and we freed millions of people. one the unintended consequences was to create a frankenstein. we all know pakistan, but i try to sell you abdul, a palestinian who was the intellectual forefather. he wrote the formative pieces about al qaeda's philosophy and narrative. he is the founder, co-founder with osama bin laden of the services bure

there's also great individuals, charlie wilson, great movie, but also larry presler, a little known senator who's bill cut off military assistance to pakistan. when we cut off, we told the pakistanis we were not going to deliver 30 some odd f-16 aircrafts they had ordered and paid for, we weren't going to give them their money back, and we were going to charge them back. larry presler is not well known in america, every pakistani knows who he is. america is a fair weather friend. they see us as a tissue. you use it and you throw it away. i'll leave your imagination to the other things they come up with. lastly the global jihad. it was born in pakistan and the war against the soviets. don't get me wrong, i think what we did in the 1980s was the right thing. we changed history. we brought down an evil empire and we freed millions of people. one the unintended consequences was to create a frankenstein. we all know pakistan, but i try to sell you abdul, a palestinian who was the intellectual forefather. he wrote the formative pieces about al qaeda's philosophy and narrative. he is the founder,