i think some of this was covered in your last answer, lars and rob. i'm with the s.f. standard, trying to drill down a little bit deeper into thrash metal specifically. i was wondering if you could, without making everybody's eyes glaze over, or maybe not, but why this area was so fundamental. you could come over here and see one of your shows, and then go across the bay and capture a g.b.h. show. why was there such a convergence of metal and punk in the area? >> it has to start with musical freedoms, and a license to be yourself, and a license to explore the things that turn you on without forfeiting who you are trying to fit in. so i think up here, i think everyone felt they were free enough to pursue their true calling. so if you want to get more technical about it, then obviously, you know, thrash metal was obviously a hybrid of the more extreme, the motorheads, and the british new wave metals, the iron maiden and the g.b.h. and all the punk bands that would come up from l.a. okay. l.a., the sunset strip, you're supposed to look like this, you're supposed to act li