lars backstrom, a real pleasure having you on the show. diagnosed until he was something like 51 years old. how did you come to realise that you are autistic? i had always felt alienated. i had always wondered why things, especially social things, they were easy for other people, but appeared so difficult for me. but i never really suspected it. it was actually my wife. one day she was web surfing as she came across an article about autism in adults in 2013. and she thought, started thinking, "well, that does very much look like my husband". lars, i'm going to do something i never, never usually do. isabel, your wife, she's next to you, isn't she? yeah. can i have a quick word with her? well, yes, by all means. come on in, isabel. would you like to sit in my chair? yes. yeah. hi, isabel. hello. hello, isabel. lovely to have you and to see you. thank you. let me just ask you this. so you were doing this internet search and then you sort of put the pieces together. but isabel, did you have any thoughts prior to finding that online site that