that is louis larusso ii. he wrote me three off-off-off-off-broadway plays.id to me, i have a play for you. i said, i'm not an actor. he said, yes you are. you just don't know it yet. >> this is you and your son training for the broadway show, "knockout." >> i lost 20 pounds. i was in great shape. >> do you like the stage better or film? >> i suppose all actors react in the same way. the stage is great. silence is great if you are into drama. laughter is wonderful. but the stage is electrifying. it is one of those things that keeps you alive. >> you worked with deniro in "bang the drum slowly." >> he was the worst ballplayer. he threw a ball like this. >> how did you meet? >> when i went there, bobby had done a movie. i didn't know who he was. he was not famous at the time. he had done something called "the gang that couldn't shoot straight." he played what appeared to be a person in a priest outfit on a bicycle with an italian accent. when i went to do this role, the director said, we have bobby deniro as the lead. i said, he's from italy. how is he going to