lasker laureates have won nobel prizes in the last seven years. evelyn witkin is joining us, ground breaking search on dna that helped shape modern genetics. also stephen elledge of harvard university, he built on witkin's work uncovering dna repair, a mechanism that protects the human genome. pleased to have both at the table. welcome. >> thank you. >> rose: great to have you here. >> pleasure to be here. >> rose: you will receive the awards tomorrow. >> yes. >> rose: tell me about you and how your career, why this direction? >> i was a graduate student at columbia. in 1943, i read a paper that came out by two scientists and they established in that paper that bacteria have genes like other organisms, and that hadn't been known before. >> rose: in '43, they did not know? >> they did not know bacteria had genes. and i got very excited when i read that paper because it seemed to me that bacteria would be a wonderful material for genetics. >> rose: to study genes. to study genes, because they divide every 20 minutes, and you can hold a billion of th