we have laszo birinyi with us. we're going up half a percent to a percent a day.59 today, the dow, 9792 today. just give me a sense, how high can this thing go? >> the s&p is running 25 basis points a day since this rally started. we're looking at 1,200 or so. . >> we'll call it 1070. so we've got a ways to go. >> the momentum is there. and if i had to buy a put at 1,200 or a call at 1,200, i would buy the call. >> wow. okay, so you're a great bull. now, banks and financials have seemed to be the backbone since early march. financials are up 3.5%. cheap? rich? still buying them. what do you do? >> we're still buying them today. now they're trading about 18, 20 times earnings. so on a fundamental basis, the banks had one heck of a move. historically, banks are market performers. in this bull market, they've been leaders. they're up over 100%. so i think it's a little late in the game for banks. >> all right, late in the game, though, for another rise. >> gold, i take it you don't agree with my concerns about a gold rally? heck of a rally? >> well, maybe it's becaus