we get them by the millions. 24 hours laterthey hatch, and feed, feed, feed, repeat, and harvest at about 100 grams, about a 3 1/2-inch shell length. and that's the market size, and we crank those out 52 weeks a year. aquilino: much of what we do here in this program has been inspired by what abalone farmers do, people like doug bush and dan swezey at the cultured abalone farm have really helped us figure out how to maximize production in this lab. so we take their best methods and then we tweak them for white abalone, so it really hps sustainable aquaculture in this country and the restoration of a species. bush: i've been banging this drum for a while, to really sort of draw attention to abalone. it's just a perfect, banner species. aquaculture and marine science has a tendency to sort of do a real cut-and-paste style of research, and so it didn't seem to me to be a great way to necessarily advance the body of knowledge on how you can effect change and keep that learning trajectory moving forward. when we have a sort of ready suly of something, where you can, like, generate the numbers