saint. probably not. >> st. lawrence who was on a gridiron over hot coals. turn me over and take a bite. i'm done on this side. in latin. or st. august stin said give me chastity, but not yet. >> the father said humor is an under appreciated value in the spiritual life. martin has written a book called between heaven and mirth. he said humor, laughter and joy are essential elements of spiritual health. >> if you are not finding joy in your faith, there is something wrong. humor brings us down to earth and reminds us that we are not god. >> all too often, joy has a disreputable reputation in religious circles. >> have you done to mass where they say so we join with the choirs of angels and holy, holy, holy lord. if that's the way the choirs are sing, we're in big trouble. >> there is a misunderstanding that said religious needs to be serious and gloomy. a lot of things are serious concerned about your salvation and the afterlife and suffering and those things, but we tend to focus so much on that to the exclusion of joy. >> part of the problem in the christian world is a distorted view of jesus. >> we focus on the passi