. >> and you're also with latinas in tech. how many latinas in tech? are there enough, not enough?as far as i'm concerned, there's never enough. but it's been amazing, because the thing is that a lot of times we don't stand out, and a lot of people don't like to wave their flag and say, this is who i am. but i think when you build a group like this, it's really dynamic and interesting the conversations we would have, that are both about our love for technology and also our cultural needs and cultural wants. so it's a very fine line sometimes to have the conversations. we're having our first breakfast tomorrow at the san francisco hub. if you go to our website, you can rsvp for that. i would love to see young women, older women, who doesn't matter, if you have a love for tech, we just can't be passive consumers. we actually have to be the makers of our own technology. >> i'll ask the same question that i asked kevin in the previous segment, where does it matter that there are latinos or latinas in tech. why does that matter? >> i think it's spot-on, our demographics have changed in