>> guest: latoya thea lee. go back to the days of william wilberforce.go to an elite culture angle that to the roman empire. the elites always want to be able to do whatever they want to do and they don't want any constraints on them. they say every problem in the world always comes down to a problem with the first commandment. if you put a false god before god and the false good as you. you do things for you and you don't really care about any consequence but whatever makes me happy in a moment. that sort of materialism and egoism is unfortunately rampant among the elites in every culture and history of man. this is not something we should be surprised that. it happens everywhere. you see that point of view being expressed by those elites and the culture they create. none of this should be shocking or surprising. every civilization in the history of man has gone through this. of global one of my heroes back in england, that was his fight was to go after the elites and the problems that were occurring in the example that they were setting for society. so