i remember a young woman in latrobe homes, and if you know baltimore, you know it sits right in the shadow of, you know, the prison there downtown, this very old-looking structure. and alicia just had a baby about three weeks ago. and i came to the house, and she was visibly depressed. there was no food in the house. there was only a table with one broken chair -- [laughter] and, you know, more worrying. there was no formula -- >> host: three-week-old baby. >> guest: and she was really having trouble sort of supporting the baby's head. so, you know, we said, gee, alicia, i think we need to interview you again, because i was concerned about the baby, and i thought maybe we could, you know, bring over some formula. so we gave her the $50 that we use, that we pay people, and lo and behold, we came the next day and alicia's just heading out the door. her hair had been permed, she looked terrific. she'd gone out to the goodwill and gotten a new pantsuit, and she was on her way out -- having left baby with mom, to look for a job. >> host: wow. >> guest: and there was formula in the house. what w