so far we have seen the u.s., lattin american nations have stood against maduro. china and russia have not. we've seen them give tacit if not explicit support. the military officers feel they have that backing. >> moises, what is the path to accelerate this transition? is it external pressure? is it internal dem mon sflags what is the most likely one to be effective? >> everything. everything has to be put into play. everything is important. the international community and as shannon said, we have a divided community. we have the democratic country supporting guadro. we have russia, cuba, iran, turkey, so on supporting maduro. that will continue. of course pressure on the military and financial pressure. the government, the maduro government will soon run out of money or will have just very limited resources and that -- the generals depend on that. and once they start suffering for lack of money, they may start rethinking their alliances. >> shannon, there seems to me to be an interesting difference between the attitude of russia and china. russia is really the sp