actually the puc is the landowner is responsible and the puc actually initiated the lease with the lauden gun club and had them under lease for 15 years before rec and park had it delegate today them. the puc has the underlying responsibility on the property and that's why we need to go forward with it. as far as the timing of this, we are, excuse me, working with the regional water quality control board, the regulatory authority with oversight responsibility for the clean up on the details of the clean up plan so that we can have it in place, excuse me, a clean up order before they buy off on the clean up plan. i'm hopeful that will happen some time this year. we will then need to go through a c-e-q-a process to go forward with the clean up. so, if all works well, we can get to the clean up in 2014. but we don't know for sure about that until we get into the specific details. and regarding the ultimate use of the property, that's something we want to make sure we had the clean up plan fairly firmly in place before we make any ultimate decisions on the land use to make sure that it is goi

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