our panel will be moderated i laura donahue -- moderated by laura donahue. hers has been nixed ordinarily important voice to this conversation. she has held fellowship with the center for constitutional law and international security and cooperation in john f. kennedy school of government. she is a life member of the council on foreign relations and the standing committee on laurel -- law and social security. phd from the university of cambridge england. thank you for moderating and doing so much and make this possible. it is an extra ordinarily important discussion. inc. you. you.o want -- thank i also want to thank our panel. mr. donohue will be giving you some background. jaffer,joined by jameel matthew olsoen, and c rotenberg. it'll will be an extra in a discussion. -- before we turn to the discussion, this has been one of the most important voices with regard to the surveillance act. sensenbrenner wisconsin. he was born in chicago and later moved. he graduated from the milwaukee country day school and did graduate work at stanford where he did political

laura. i also want the thank our panelists. professor donahuel be giving you some background on each of them, but we're joined by georgia meal -- [inaudible] director of the center for democracy at the american civil liberties union, robert litt, matthew olsen, director of the national counterterrorism center and mark rotten berg, president and executive director of the electronic privacy information center. so it's an extraordinary group, and it's going to be a remarkable discussion. but before we turn to the panel, we're truly honored to have with us representative jim sensenbrenner who's been one of the most vocal and important voices in the united states house of representatives with regard to the foreign intelligence surveillance act and current proposals for its reform. congressman sensenbrenner represents the fifth congressional district of wisconsin which includes milwaukee, dodge and all of washington and jefferson counties. he was born in chicago and later moved to wisconsin with his family. he graduated from the pill waukee country da