and finally after 15 or so years i got hooked up with a great filmmaker named laura dunn who is making a documentary about wendell and i got to help produce the documentary, and that's when he found out that i was a woodworker. now, when i was an actor he didn't have any time for me, but his son happens to be a woodworker and he knew of my work as a woodworker, and said oh, that guy is in my woodworking magazine. wendell said oh, let's have them over. so then i got to finally be friend of the family and become an ally to where i come one of my favorite things to do is just introduce as many people as i can to his writing. i've done audiobooks of a couple of his books of essays, and getting ready to do a new book that's coming out of his that's very exciting. and so, i mean, he's an incredibly prolific artist, and so i'm glad that enable to like pitch in and be part of their crew, but i also try and stay out of their hair as much as i can because he's got better things to do. >> host: nick offerman, a very c-span-esque question. what is your writing style? where do you do it? when? >> g

laura dunn colic who believes the with the store. it's the facts to continue the ukrainian complet. look the disinformation the censorship around this conflict in ukraine and around russia in general. the disinformation and censorship in the west, and particularly in the u. s. which i can speak to because i am from the united states, is unprecedented. i have never seen this level of disinformation ever regarding any conflict. and that saying a lot, because we've been lied to a lot about many things about weapons of mass destruction in iraq about the gulf. it's all again and vietnam, et cetera, et cetera. but this is the worst i've ever seen it. they do not want to humanize russia or even the russian people they want to de, humanize them to justify continuing to send billions and billions of dollars of argument to ukraine, global food, the crisis being able to solve that very much top of the agenda for many countries, russia had suspended its participation in the black sea green export. what's your thoughts on that? first of all. well, obviously, i'm saddened by it's, you know, peopl

laura dunn complex here in the studio. well, obviously i am saddened by it. it's, you know, people are going to be hurt by that. a lot of the world, particularly the middle east in africa, depend on grain from this region for their survival at the same time. and it does appear that they wore attacks against the russian fleet in the black sea by ukrainian forces. and apparently the u. k. was somehow involved as well, and obviously, you know, when that happens, it's no longer humanitarian court or right. it's now a military chord or so it's, it's very regrettable. but i would say that it's, that it is understandable. russia points, i fence for many months since the initial you and broker deal was done, a lot of the grain was going to europe are countries. in other words, that didn't necessarily really need it at the expense of african, in particular, in asian countries to russia, says that it will give grain to africa for free, and then at market prices afterwards. so they are saying we want to look after the people most the in need, but again, not message isn'