conversation with steve shapiro and laura durham in just a moment. >>> and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. ♪ >>> if pictures are worth a thousand words then steve shapiro can fill pages of several books. his latest project is letter press edition of james baldwin's "the fire next time." >> my pleasure. >> let me unpack this thing. it came in this beautiful packaging and all of this. it is -- they sent this to me a few weeks ago. it is beautiful. >> i think they did an incredible job. i think it has a lot of interesting elements. the text of james baldwin "fire next time." it has an introduction by john lewis. it has a piece written by baldwin's sister and has about 120 of my civil rights photographs from 1963 through 1968. >> tell me specifically -- we can talk about your civil rights work for hours. tell me about hanging out with james baldwin. >> james baldwin was amazing. in 1962 i read the new yorker piece he wrote which became part of fire next time. i asked if i could do a photo essay with him. through the month of january '63 we travelled fr

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. >> bill: those comments earlier today, laura ingraham as protesters take down a confederate statue last night in durham. a renewed push to remove monuments across the south. where do these actions go next and where it is a national debate go next? our panel takes on a complicated topic. >> shannon: plus standing by a secretary of state rex tillerson gets ready to take that podium later this hour. we will bring you that the moment it gets underway. it's >> the department of justice has opened a civil rights investigation into the deadly car attack that killed one innocent american. to anyone who acted criminally in this weekend's racist violence, you will be held fully accountable. >> shannon: president trump announcing the federal investigation into the driver involved in a deadly charlottesville attack james field. we are learning more about him and his violent past today. the former deputy assistant attorney general joins is now live. good to see you. let's pick this down so people understand. there are state charges pending, second degree murder, other things. bill has been denied. he sits behind ba