pamela's efforts touched laura gara, when it was her time to grieve. laura said she felt instant loneliness when her husband rodrigo died from covid on christmas eve at 33 years old. their daughter had just turned 1 days before. the group has given laura support and advice. they checked up on her frequently and helped her realize that it's okay sometimes to not be okay. pamela addison and laura gara join us now. pamela, tell me about before the loss. tell me about your husband as a father and husband. >> he was just so full of life and had such a presence to him that i just truly miss, like you saw in that video him rocking his two kids. that was his row, row, row your boat, and he just loved doing that, and the laughter that he elicited from my daughter is just, you know, it's empty now, because he doesn't do that anymore, and just seeing that smile on his face that lit up his eyes, because he was just living his dream. he just loved being a daddy. he loved being a husband. he would just do anything and everything for all of us. and i just totally miss