and that's one of the big criticisms not that i'm prone to quote laura ingram but laura ingram said ifng message they should pack up and go home. >> bill: laura said that george [ inaudible ] said that rush limbaugh said that and weekly standard is saying the same thing that from their point of view, this should be a slam dunk, right? >> well yeah -- >> bill: they think because the economy is so bad. but they have a candidate and party that is not taking advantage of the situation, and they are almost saying we're going to lose when we do lose we better just shut down the republican party. >> to be fair i think it's easy for these outside commentators. mitt romney and paul ryan know this, because they are smart people. they know their numbers don't add up. they know that -- you know, their campaign has even admitted that it would be suicidal to get into details about their budget and tax plans, because they don't add up. they favor the wealthy, and they are just the typical trickle-down economics that american people have consistently once they felt it rejected. >> bill: and result in

both of you, starting with you, krystal, i would like you to listen to laura ingram who is appealingory. >> that reminds me of a lot of the stuff that was being said in 2006 by some of george w. bush's top advisers. oh, don't worry, we have internal polls that show us we're going to pick up seats in the house. what happened in 2006? we had our clocks cleaned? >> will they have their clocks cleaned do you think? >> i think it's too early to say that, but i think you can look at the polling, not just in the past week but over a period of time and see that the president has held a clear lead, and if they don't fundamentally change what is going on in the campaign, they will lose, and that will have an impact on the senate and the house. >> david, do you think that there's a temptation for the president's team to become a little over confident given that we've had a number of polls now suggesting a small but significant lead? >> i don't think so because everyone knows there's also a couple hundred millions of dollars in dark money that's going to wash over this race and make -- who knows

haste to jump into the issue may have been a response to the desperation of conservatives like laura ingram. >> if you can't beat barack obama with this record, then shut down the party. because this is a gimme election or at least it should be. chris: major, we got three national polls out there. all of them about likely voters. not just registered voters. all taken within a day of this tragedy in libya. it did account for part of that event. and the president is leading in all three. >> this campaign feels things slipping away. is quieting itself a little bit by saying well, it's the bounce out of the convention. it will dissipate. and the debates will reset things. what we know about this campaign, though, is that every time there's been a potential to reset it, romney hasn't. he has failed to jump on momentum -- momentous occasions and turn them to his advantage. the president if he haslinda amin done so per sevently and -- if he has has done so persistently and -- chris: does that -- when you take the offensive the opponent has it easy and knocks your block off when you go for it. shou

laura ingram, rush limbaugh, before that jack welch, rupp.ng on this terribly run romney campaign. this morning, eric erickson coming on saying it is a terribly run campaign that is very significant. >> jennifer rube innocent "washington post," who has been very apologetic for the romney campaign previously, been sort of very helpful to them, she has -- >> jennifer rube reason one of the romney campaign's biggest apologists, no more. it seems like the wagons have stopped circling. and no longer do you have a lot of conservatives blaming the pollsters or saying we are losing because the media is liberal. i mean, reagan could have used that one. so, what's going on in camp romney? >> how about let's look at the actual race. yes, the president is ahead, but it's not like it's a landslide, not like he is blowing romney away. so here you have this completely sort of hand-wringing, knife fighting, infighting, i can't believe the stuff that went public to politico, including somebody giving a draft speech excerpt that they wrote for romney and leaki

laura ingram joins us to talk about the news of the day. frank luns looking at ads hitting the air wave and how did brian kilmeade lose his video. we have video. "fox and friends" kicks off live from charlotte, back to you. >> we'll be watch issue. it is now 53 after the hour. 7 minutes until the top. ladies if your husband diant tell the difference twone off wheat and egg shell . new research show that men and women see colors different low. they struggle to tell subtles in color. and utah man survefied four days without food or water in a drainage pipe . four days after being stuck in the pipe he managed to climb out. doctors are trying to save his leg. >> glad he is okay. >> earlier in the show we asked you to look at this one. what do you want to hear from democrats this week? charles blatemoore. i want to hear an apology for an abysmal past four years. i would like to hear the democrats take credit for the mistakes. steve from florida i don't want to hear blame bush. >> thank you to everyone who responded. five minutes to the top of th

you just saw laura ingramive up. they areot all givgup fhat arguing with the polls fascinating. there is an industry that has now grown up around poll denials. i remember the winning days of the 2004 campaign. rasly nsuming a blog post that told me it was wrong. across spectrum to find goodness and confirmation bias. but it is so striking, the amount o institution al inivo encourage that instink. it is so flattered with money and attention. what we are seeing with this campgn is that in sting k consuming the replican party. al t things that they thought would be improving the republican ticket. these things become national themes and it turns out that the american public is no that receptive to themes that emate in right wing blog comments. the concern about how cell phones figure into this. it was a legitimate ncern becausewa legitimate factor. >> it is like the gop understands that mitt romney was not doing well. they were building him a house to walk into. therefore he st onn explains it in new york magazine. it is is approach to polling an the magazine. >> the economic miser

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here's laura ingram on her radio show. >> if you can't beat barack obama with this record, then shutown the party. shut it down. start new. with new people. one of the biggest conservative voices of america. she went further in blaming the romney camp this morning. >> mitt romney should be up by five points. stick their heads in the sand. business as usual. keep going along the same path. i think that's very dangerous. >> the fear for conservatives is very real. president obama is even beating mitt romney on the economy in the latest poll. mitt romney's flip-flopping on health care this weekend didn't win him any fans among conservatives either. the editorial page of rupert murdoch's journal says the pre-existing calculation seems to be that he can win the election without having to explain the economic moment or even his own policies. and this flap shows such vagueness carries its own political risks. rupert murdoch has been tweeting advice. romney must offer a specific path to restore the american dream, stop fearing far right, which has nowhere else to go. rush limbaugh seems to d

i had a conversation with laura ingram where i had speculation why this might be happening which i don'te to do. millions of us addicted to texting, entertainment websites, gaming, blocking out the world whenever we want to. it is now possible to live in an alternate universe operated out of your home or in our hand. you never have to deal with reality. always some fantasy you can create. economic issues are boring and complicated. there is spin flying all over the place. hard to know what the truth is unless you are out of work, then you know. but to understand what is actually happening in the marketplace you have to pay attention. you have to read. listen to news reports. for example my syndicated newspaper column this week is why america does not have an energy policy and how that affects all of us. you guys might read it on bill o'reilly .com but most americans will not. almost every person i know has a hand held internet device and spend hours surfing the net. you can see how your society has been dramatically impacted by high tech. in my opinion that is why this presidential elect

these idiots blast people like laura ingram. why aren't you a loyal republican? well, i think a loyal republican says the house is on fire. and time's running out. if we want to save this house, we'd better do it now. i tried that a couple of weeks ago. guess what? time's running out. you know when early voting starts in ohio? less than a week. >> 26 states have already started voting. >> 26 states have already started early voting. in ohio where we're going to show some polls this morning that show just how horribly mitt romney's doing in ohio. you know what? i was saying last week there are 45 days. there aren't really 45 days left. they've got to turn this thing around or they lose. this is what jason riley wrote in "the wall street journal" yesterday. media blame game. this from a conservative publication, by the way, extreme right-wing trolls. "the wall street journal." just like "the wall street journal's" been warning mitt romney's campaign for a month now that he'd better do something or else he's going to lose. "since pulling even in the polls after the

tuesday, rush limbaugh, sean hannity, laura ingram saying if he can't win in this election, republicanssband as a party. then on wednesday, let's say romney was right, let's give him the benefit of the doubt. his reaction was appropriate and that politically it will play well. look at the backlash that's coming from republicans, not just democrats, republicans on capitol hill who think he did the wrong thing. peggy noonan, you just showed a clip from her, peter king. there's been a lot of people who have come out that said he shouldn't have said what he did and how he said it. you have three straight days of republican critiquing him which speaks very fundamentally to the issue that he has, is that republicans don't like him that much. so they're ready to pounce on him the minute that he doesn't do what they think he should do to beat barack obama. >> jim, does the romney campaign feel like this is just beltway banter from some members of congress but also from pundits, or do they feel like they have a real problem here this week? >> i think they're clear-eyed that they have a real issu

right analysis if romney loses but that's what you're already seeing from the rush limbaughs and laura ingrams and maybe the amy holmeses, but you can answer for yourself. >> he has somewhat of a tortured relationship with the media whereas the white house working very closely with media. media matters even have meetings at the white house. the romney campaign has been, i think, a little bit uneasy about the relationship they want to have with the conservative media so they haven't necessarily been gung ho, rah-rah with the national campaign. >>> let me move to something else that happened. that is the anniversary of 9/11. it was marked by plenty of television coverage recalling the events of that terrible day. here's how the morning was handle at 8:46 the first time the plane hit the first trade center. >> president obama and first lady michelle obama will be marking the moments on the south lawn. >> on this anniversary of the 9/11 attacks we pause now to remember that moment when the first plane hit the world trade center. >> it was so important health wise to remind women, you know, check y

let's listen to laura ingram on rer radio show today. >> if you can't beat barack obama with this record, then shut down the party. shut it down. start new with new people. >> there's an optimistic note, steve, for laura to greet her audience on the monday after the democratic convention. >> there's two schools of thought on this. you can come down hard on mitt romney and say this guy is a flawed candidate, he's a bad candidate. >> i'll do that. what else can you do? >> i think he is but i have a sympathy for him because i think he's been put in an impossible position by his party. and what i mean by that is the republican party basically decided when obama become president they're going to oppose everything he says, does and proposes. that dose than the mean there's going to be any coherent policy. it just means they're going to take the health care plan, they're going to take what was once a republican health care plan and call it job killing, freedom killing socialism. so it puts romney in the position that he's in this weekend. now he has to go there and tell you how he wants to repe

just listen to laura ingram. >> if you can't beat barack obama with this record, then shut down the party. >> rush limbaugh echoed with more. >> if obama win, you say it's the end of the republican party. and there will be a third party that will be oriented towards conservative, rand paul thinks libertarian inch. and if obama wins, the republican party will try to maneuver things so conservatives get blamed. the only problem is right now romney's not running a conservative campaign. >> we haven't seen such a collective hand wringing by the conservative opinion elite since july. the advice is coming fast and furious. here's news corp ceo rupert murdoch tweeting to win romney must open to sympathetic families. stop fearing far right. the "wall street journal" criticized romney for vagueness, quote, mr. romney's pre-existing political calculation seems to be that he can win the election without having to explain the economic moment or even his policies. weekly standard also chimed in, the as sisters that you are more comprehend tent than president obama strikes many people as merely that, a

today laura ingram offered mitt romney this prescription to make krit sims of his campaign disappear. >> mitt ram any should be up 5 or 6 parts. start winning these polls. the romney campaign stick their heads in the sand say business as usual, i think that is very dangerous. >> tonight nate silver's blog forecasts president obama will within 213 elek torl votes. mitt romney has a 20% chance of winning the election as of now. krystal ball, laura ingraham thinks the best thing for romney to do is win. would that mean rig the polls, just get in there and play with the numbers? >> you're asking me to get inside of laura ingraham's head which i don't think i'm capable of doing. >> it's interesting, because the advice has been all across the board to the extent there has been advice given. and a lot of people like limbaugh, and o-riley, are saying you've got to be more ideological. you've got to move harder to the right. and you're seeing already the fissures developing of what the conversations will be if they do lose in november and where the republican party is going to want to go. you

laura ingram, rush limbaugh,ky go on and on -- >> if you want to blame the media for mitt romney's ineptign, peggy noonan said it best this is a nightmare of a campaign. and the most troubling thing is it's not that a lot of us republicans don't think he can win, we do believe he can win. but when he says he has no need to turn this campaign around after a disastrous week, where you see ohio slipping away, wisconsin slipping away? iowa slipping away, michigan slipping away? that's a political concern. not an ideological concern, that's a political concern. >> let me step back for a second. david brooks you're looking at the substantive debate taking place here about the records of two candidates, biographies of two candidates, but also where we are politically in the state of this campaign. if we pull back, how do you diagnose where he goes next? where he tries to go next? >> he has to look at what the president's weakness is. he's never going to win a popularity contest. the president's weakness is that he has no second-term agenda. he put out a great album in 2008. he doesn't have an a

. >> we had laura ingram and rush limbaugh saying the party -- this is the end of the republican partys we know it. >> right. >> what's fascinating to me about this is we're seeing now a preview of how republicans will interpret and handle a defeat if they lose in november. what's interesting to me is what this says about where the party is going in the event of a loss. i made this point last week. if you can think back to the last incumbent democrat to seek re-election, bill clinton to 1996. in the republican opposition was as heated and sfwens and unyielding as the republican opposition to barack obama has been. when the republicans lost the 1996 election, they basically gave credit to clinton for k beating them and they changed their strategy. it changed in his second term in approach of the 2000 election. they decided they needed their own bill clinton. right now they don't give obama credit. they're blaming mitt romney if they lose this election. they say romney lost this. >> romney has made mistakes, but let's calm down. mitt romney is out now speaking in los angeles to the hispa

. >> perhaps he was feeling because everybody from laura ingram to rush limbaugh to the "wall streetd him the day before not being tough a. enough, not running a tough campaign, if you can't win against barack obama in this economy, then we should, you know, shut down as a political party. i'm paraphrasing, i'm not quoting. >> those folks are friends of mine, particularly laura, i like her a lot. we had jittery republicans not in the romney campaign but outside it because the president got a bounce out of his convention, polls show that he's taken a lead, that's beginning to fade already. but i would counsel my fellow republicans, the romney campaign's been steady for a long time, a patience strategy which has won them the nomination, put him in a virtual tie with the president of the and let's not get panicky five or sick wex weeks before the election. >> i don't know the numbers, we'll have those on nbc "nightly news" with chuck todd at 6:30, but there has been in the last couple of days a trend of president obama opening up a lead. >> i saw that, but i also has the rasmussen poll

laura ingram. rush limbaugh. i can go on and on.ugh -- >> if you want to blame the media for mitt romney's inept campaign, peggy noonan said it best, this is a nightmare of a campaign. and the most troubling thing is, it's not that a lot of us republicans don't think he can win. we do believe he can win. but when he says he has no need to turn this campaign around, after a disastrous week, where you see ohio slipping away, wisconsin slipping away, iowa slipping away, michigan slipping away, that is a political concern. not an ideological concern. that is a political concern. >> let me step back for just a second. david brooks, you're looking at both the substantive debate taking place about the record of two candidates, biographies of two candidates, but also where we are politically in a state of this campaign. if we pull back, how do you diagnose where he goes next? where he tries to go next? >> he has to look at what the president's weakness is. he's never going to win a popularity contest. as you said, least popular candidate in