laura. so, what if i tried to make this a bear fight, in a way? because sometimes the answer is neither. there is a reason why nelson's case right now. and in a way, disney has got to compete with some deep, deep pockets in apple, amazon, alphabet distribution, that it didn't have to compete with before. what's going to be the first clear sign that this -- turnaround is going to be working? >> so, the key word, because i agree 100% with you, it is very hard to compete with apple and amazon and alphabet. but they are distribution. and what you have here at disney's world class ip, and world class storytelling. so, that's what you have to see. and both of these companies, they are core business is making content. my opinion is, warner brothers is unproven under current management. because a lot of people left from the traditional under at&t ownership. but at disney, you sort of have the same crew, although we saw tiger's back. and he really is a content guy. so if you had to bet on one guy making great content over the next two years, with ten billion dollars spent on content, excluding sports, i think you would bet o