was one of them, laura spelman, she was the wife of rockefeller decades ago, is that true? and also and i'll hang up and listen, but is there a book that you can buy that give you the history of most of the hbcus? but it's a pleasure listening to you and i wish you all the luck. >> dr. tatum. >> yes, so let he start with the history of spelman. it was founded by two white women, religious missionaries who traveled from massachusetts to atlanta. their names were hair yell jiles and sophia packard. and they established it in april of 1881 in the basement of a local chirk. they were befriended by the rockefeller family. they traveled around raising money for the college and they spoke in a church in ohio where john d. rockefeller heard them speak. his wife laura spelman rockefeller befriended the women and the rockefellers were very generous in helping them get established. the land where the college now sits was purchased largely with the help of the rockefeller family. in gratitude they changed the nail of the school, which was originally the atlanta baptist female seminary