scott: welcome back to "press here," we're talking with sue decker, laura sydell. laura: so, i was just thinking that what you are doing, it seems to me, is probably gonna be more the future direction of social media. because i think a lot of people, myself included, maybe are getting a little sick of this news feed, where you've got many different topics coming up at once. and so, i wonder to what degree you think that's true yourself, that's why you're doing this, and what direction you think it's likely to go? sue: yeah, that's a great question, and i actually think that all of these things evolve in industries and in media, and i think what happens is, at first, often there's a general interest network, and then over time, more specialized ones start to develop. so, for example, in general social media, you have these vertical networks popping up, like slack for the office, or next door for your neighborhood, where people have a common interest because it's hard to find those people on a large, very successful, social network. i think the other thing that happen

i am going to invite laura sydell to weigh in on it to get started. fake news has become a big, messy topic. it is being brandished as an all-purpose slogan to discard everything from -- to describe everything from errors to deliberate falsehoods. it is no longer agreed upon as identifying a unitary phenomenon. what conclusions can we draw about the way the term is now being fought over and the elastic way it is being applied? laura: i guess i want to say there is a difference of intent. there is a big difference. people who are in the fake news business, they know what they are doing. they know it is fake. as opposed to a journalist who is trying to get it right makes a mistake. i would argue, for example, some people say that judith miller's reporting on the weapons of mass destruction was fake news. it wasn't. she made a horrible mistake. but the guy that deirdre mentioned, this is fake news, that is profitable. we decided we would take one story within a meeting and i got the assignment to take one story and trace it all the way back. in this case

our reporters, john swartz of "usa today," and national public radio's laura sydell, this week on "pressott mcgrew: good morning, everyone, i'm scott mcgrew. i was looking over a list of past guests on the show and i was struck by how many of them, at some point in their career, worked at yahoo. yahoo, remember, was the valley's first big dot-com success story, and for many executives, it was a strange, and often frustrating, chapter in their lives. here are just a few of them.

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