how things can get confusing, in august of 2013 we were on the verge of trying to get a program laurched, it does want but we were working with a energy provider who was going to offer us a mix of energy that was 25 percent wind, 75 percent large hide ronot frauj hetch hetchy. if you use the state standsered that is 100 percent ghg free. under the other ballot not in front of you today, the ibew one, you call that 25 percent ghg free assuming the wind came from category one renewable energy credit and that isn't a guarantee. they were talking about the fact we could have had 100 percent ghg makes and wouldn't be able to call it 100 percent ghg at that point. we wouldn't be able to call it renewable because the state doesn't allow large hydro renewable but call it ghg free like pge. finally i want to get into the-there was a civil grand jury report that came out last week that talks about clean power sf is long last. it does very good discussions about unbundled and bundleed and what it means. i energy you to take a look at it. one of the recommendations is that the local officials includ

i brought up the question that i did because ultimately i want to insure we are able to laurch clean power sf in 2016 and it is a competitive program where we offer rates and they crum petitive and we provide clean power. i don't want to do anything that would harm that launch so will support the measure but think there are valid concerns but today i'll support the measure before us. >> great, thank you. so supervisor cohen. >> i don't have much to add other than i will support the measure today and seconding the amendment and i do think it is interesting one of the benefits of the democratic process is when a initiative comes on the ballot we have a opportunity to counter and offer different perspective but the thing that is consistent is it allowstuse talk and drill down to the issue. i think that if it were not for the measure that-the pge measure, the issue that mr. hunter stern spoke of, i appreciate the level of advocase and sounding an alarm to educate on your concerns. >> okay, great. so, we have a motion, seconded to move this item to the july 27 special rules committee meet

i brought up the question that i did because ultimately i want to insure we are able to laurch clean power sf in 2016 and it is a competitive program where we offer rates and they crum petitive and we provide clean power. i don't want to do anything that would harm that launch so will support the measure but think there are valid concerns but today i'll support the measure before us. >> great, thank you. so supervisor cohen. >> i don't have much to add other than i will support the measure today and seconding the amendment and i do think it is interesting one of the benefits of the democratic process is when a initiative comes on the ballot we have a opportunity to counter and offer different perspective but the thing that is consistent is it allowstuse talk and drill down to the issue. i think that if it were not for the measure that-the pge measure, the issue that mr. hunter stern spoke of, i appreciate the level of advocase and sounding an alarm to educate on your concerns. >> okay, great. so, we have a motion, seconded to move this item to the july 27 special rules committee meet

i brought up the question that i did because ultimately i want to insure we are able to laurch clean power sf in 2016 and it is a competitive program where we offer rates and they crum petitive and we provide clean power. i don't want to do anything that would harm that launch so will support the measure but think there are valid concerns but today i'll support the measure before us. >> great, thank you. so, supervisor cohen. >> i don't have much to add other than i will support the measure today and seconding the amendment and i do think it is interesting one of the benefits of the democratic process is when a initiative comes on the ballot we have a opportunity to counter and offer different perspective but the thing that is consistent is it allowstuse talk and drill down to the issue. i think that if it were not for the measure that-the pge measure, the issue that mr. hunter stern spoke of, i appreciate the level of advocase and sounding an alarm to educate on your concerns. >> okay, great. so, we have a motion, seconded to move this item to the july 27 special rules committee mee