but as lauren was just saying there, the white house does not have any fine print on this budget agreement either. gen jensaki called it a menu of options and as lauren said, this menu of options has existed for quite some time so the reality is the president is said to have found those meetings yesterday as constructive and encouraging but there's no sign that they're any closer to reaching a deal and as we've seen many, many times in washington, after these meetings, it takes several days for a deal to reach. they only do it at the 11th hour, so we're not quite at the 11th how but it's certainly coming up to that point. but there is just a sense of the moderates just believe the price tag is simply too high. progressives don't want to shrink their side of the deal either, so as of now, it's actually fairly quiet here at the white house, despite all of these crises and challenges mounting for this administration. victor and alisyn? >> maybe not the 11th hour but it's at least 10:15, 10:25. we're getting close. >> we're getting there. >> jeff zeleny, lauren fox, thank you both. >>> for more, let's bring i