laurence fishburne was the guy who came in, and he was crushed. we have a lot of situations like that, because when john was doing what he was doing, we had to get people to do those things, and we had an understudy for john, and he came in once a month and did parts and stuff for our show. lou was the guy. tavis: he was on a number of episodes. >> he was filling in, and when john left, lou thought he was going to get that role, but it did not work out. tavis: that is fun going back and seeing the people who were guest stars. a lot of them. >> we had ron glass and irene. i used to work at a place called the african room, which was a showcase room, and i've been came in with her mother. she and -- and irene came in with her mother and stang "good ship lollipop." she came on the show, and she was a woman. i did not even want to talk to her, because i was embarrassed i was a lecherous guy, and she was 5 years old. tavis: how did you manage your staff? >> i had 31 guys. tavis: you represented a lot of comedians. >> i have louis anderson, david letterm