professor, you wanted to respond to laurie garrett.ne,t against the but i talk to the cdc and the who and i think there's wide agreement needs to be smarter. have a health crisis turning to a human rights crisis. you have to provide food. you have to provide medical care. you have to provide psychosocial support. and you need to provide secure, but also save and sterile isolation equipment with personal protection equipment. smartat is with the senator is. i don't see it on the ground in those three countries. >> i want to ask about another question that has come up, the ahical issue of administering drug that has really not been fully tested now and administering it to the populations there in africa as the united states is trying to rapidly manufacture this drug. what are some of the ethical questions that it raises for you? >> well, so we don't actually know the efficacy of the drugs. that is the first thing. but we also are not sure how much there is in how the system is going to be somehow those drugs are going to be disseminated

laurie garrett has ideas on that. won a pulitzer prize for journalism on the ebola outbreak of 1995. pleased to have you here. welcome. >> thank you. >> charlie: you are writing a piece that will go online soon for foreign policy and you are saying, world, you don't get it. >> right. >> charlie: what don't we get? we don't get both the enormity, the potential of this spreading to huge nations like nigeria and south africa and that there's no magic bullet. we aren't going to come riding in as the great technological america with the magic treatment, the magic cure, the magic vaccine. we might have something, oh two, years from now, but not right now. so we're building up a kind of response that is so anemic, so much less than what is needed. just take for example liberia. it used to have a whopping 200 physicians for 4 million people. now because of ebola deaths and fear, they're down to 50 doctors to take care of 4 million people. how can anyone imagine that you can treat all the background diseases and illnesses, the

robert garry and laurie garrett, we thank you both.nboth. >> thank you. >> woodruff: one hundred years ago the world was drawn into what was called the great war. 17 million people died over the course of four years in a conflict that laid the foundation for wars that continue today. jeffrey brown has more. >> reporter: bright red ceramic poppies seemed everywhere this week, at the tower of london. they cascaded down the stonework into the dry moat, each one representing a british soldier who died during the war, nearly 900-thousand in all. the poppy was about the only flower that would grow in the wastelands of belgium and northern france, where millions fought and died in four long years of trench warfare. this week, former enemies have marked the centennial of the conflict, with ceremonies in belgium and elsewhere. >> ( translated ): the remembrance of the first world war allows us to reflect on the decision made to keep the peace and bring people closer together. the european memory reminds us that no country can last without a spi

laurie garrett and -- who actually took the cover since the ebola outbreak -- and lawrence gostin.you can't have a smart "sanitaire" or quarantine without real care for people being quarantined. it seems to me, the patient's, the amerco patients who went to emory, they were being quarantined, right? but there are also receiving care. stuff, andes staff, systems. you can't be compassionate without expertise and you can have expertise without supplies that you need to do a good job. i do not see those two positions as really in context. -- a contest. the right to health care, the right to support just as a public health response, it has to be aware of how an illness is transmitted and how to protect the public. this tension, which is very profound as you know, is worsened by the fact there is no good medical system in liberia or sierra leone or guinea. and we have to build one. >> were talking to dr. paul farmer. we will come back to this discussion after the break. the music we are about to hear is called "ebola town." it was written to raise awareness about ebola. ♪ [music break] t

laurie garrett is an author and has won a pulitzer prize for her coverage of the ebola outbreak of 2005. -- of 1995. i am pleased to have her here. you are writing a piece that will go online soon. you are saying, world, you do not get it. what don't we get? >> we don't get the enormity, the potential of this spreading to huge nations like nigeria and south africa, and that there is no magic bullet. we are not going to come riding in as the great, technological america with the magic treatment, the magic cure, the magic vaccine. we might have something to years from now, but not right now. we are building up a kind of response that is so anemic, so much less than what is needed -- take, for example, liberia. they used to have a whopping 200 physicians for 4 million people. because of ebola deaths and fear, they are down to 50 doctors to take care of 4 million people. how can anyone imagine that you can treat all of the background diseases and illnesses, the routine car accident, the woman in labor, and handle this arable -- horrible epidemic with 50 doctors? >> what are the implications