let's cross live to for my see i on the list and ceo of the business exposure reduction group. laurie johnson, laurie is good to have you join me now. so the white house. thank you michael. thank you. so the white house, sadie directed the us, made a treaty a these rules defends against you, ronnie, and attacks about how likely is it that washington will get directly involved in this conflict as well. i think the chances are pretty high because the political pressures are such in the united states, given the combination of misinformation of propaganda. and that the story is being presented that here was israel, minding its own business, and those nasty iranians just out of nowhere decided to attack them. you know, nobody, they actually was look at the fact that we want as long promised retaliation for the murder of india. and then on top of that, the recent assassinations of the house on the strong law and the senior. are you running a revolutionary guard commander general? now a s o allies are on the developments in the mid least let. let's take a look at the cnn discovery from tel aviv. i w

the former deputy director of the us state departments, office of country terms of laurie johnson also see you all the instructional consulting firm burg associates, laurie griffin, i have you on the program, wants you to put on here. what can be the pick of codes be, be used for the information operations look to the, to see if it's an olympic gold medal, is going to be awarded to anybody for meddling in internal political affairs and coming up with all sorts of nefarious ways to do it, the united states would be the gold medal winner hands down. no other country in the world with a pulse. and those activities have been underway for, you know, 7578 years in particular in the way, started in 1948 with the organization of the c i. so the, the fact that the special operations command enjoyed special operations command both. so com and j soc, is there? no, and i are looking at this as a way to try to carry out of the part of what would be called can be computer network operations, information operations they call a shaping the battlefield. detroit, you try to get a narrative going, i mean

johnson from the ben bulletin. ladies. thank you for being here as well. our candidates this evening , republican incumbent lauriehavez deremer, the congresswoman won her seat two years ago. the first election held in, what was the redrawn district five. her challenger is state representative janelle bynum and ms. bynum is currently serving as a state representative for happy valley and north clackamas county. >> prior to accepting our invitation to this debate, the candidates agreed to a set of rules. each candidate will have one minute for an opening statement as well as closing remarks. we have conducted a coin toss to determine the order. each response to each question will be limited to one minute along with a one minute rebuttal. the moderator who asked the question can allow either candidate 30 more seconds to clarify or add to their comments. this is strictly at the moderator's discretion. question comes from us. the moderators, viewers, listeners and readers as well as from the league of women voters of deschutes county and the city club of bent. >> all right, congresswoman chavez deremer won the coin to